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So if you are strictly speaking in terms of the impact personally in particular cases, I agree. The user's experience while playing a game, that's a different matter, albeit mostly insignificant. I was talking about how it relates in other terms. So specific to benchmarks and fps of cards...

These GPUs are so fast wr need faster CPUs. We use to be almost entirely GPU bound, with tiny fps improvements after overerclocking CPUs. But these modern GPUs gain FPS with CPU overclocks, not just in the silly low res conditions. And this is before the new consoles start making their big...

Who else has been wondering how power hungry is GDDR6x? Its obviously using power, it's producing extra heat. I am wondering just how much power is being used on GDDR6x?

So you are saying, because of the Digital Foundry video, people were expecting a 75% increase in performance for every and all games? Besides the fact that the DF preview showed per game variances of more then 22 percent, there was also this big disclaimer so that everyone was informed these...

Chuckles!! Wouldn't it be really ironic if the phrase "up to" means the upper most or as you put it, "edge cases"? up to 1. As far as or approaching a certain point.

Do what are you talking about? You may want to get better sourcing because literally everything in this post is bunk. "NDA's that do expire till after the cards are available to purchase" - Not true. The founders edition NDA got postponed to the 16th, the founders edition cards will go to...

Well, when speaking in terms of generational advancement, you absolutely should keep the refreshed out. It's a rather specific discussion when comparing launches of a new generation to those of past generations. You seem to be wanting to talk about this new generation verses what's available...

Ha ha. That's a good one! You funny. On what planet do people ignore or stay away from things that might bother them? This modern age is all about the endless search for something to be upset and offended over. Well beyond going out of the way, for many, it seems to have become their entire...

Yeah....uhm.. what is the problem? The "use one game and conclude" gripe is misplaced. Are you even following the thread? So 1st off- 1080ti vs 980ti is not the same comparison as the vanilla 3080 to 2080ti. Compare the 3080 to the non ti 2080 or perhaps the 3090 to the 2080ti. Secondly-...

A work of art. You put a lot of effort in this painting, almost seems as if you're trying to make ampere look as bad as you possibly could. Which is a little strange at this point, given we have yet to see independent testing for true performance. For all we know, the 3070 could end up less...

So... I have been thinking a lot. The he memory situation might have been done in an effort to make the launch have the biggest splash as possible. Surely Nvidia was keenly aware of the biggest grip of their 2000 series RTX line, which by far was the price increase. I would expect any...

Opened the link, read it. Then read it again...and still, I keep asking What did I just read????

you looking to buy the 3070 or 3080? I automatically want to say wait for 3rd party reviews before deciding anything. But I guess you are thinking that a huge wave in demand could drive up prices if the supply is limited. It is probably safe to assume that there will not be endless stock, they...

well this post certainly ran off and left the facts behind. While it is true that prices went up for the RTX 2000 series, I don't know where you come up with "isn't out of the goodness of their little hearts" "It's out of competition" from AMD? What competition? I know you are not suggesting...

You know, we have have to wait to see detailed testing and reviews. Nvidia claimed 1.9x perf/watt improvement in regard to framerate but the absolute data crunching capabilitie aren't limited or restricted to specific fps. It appears that there has been a large improvement in 3 different...

Well... When new cards launch, comparing across different architectures is not as straight forward as one might think. This is because there are so many attributes and factors at play when designing a graphics card. For a new card model, there are many decisions to make. The specific goals...

an Alpha stage benchmark is sent to the media first, before anyone could even download it. This just so happens to be the same benchmark AMD was using to showcase mantle on a 290x, 6 months ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9UACXikdR0 Might there be a reason this benchmark does so...

I am with this guy ^^ +1

it is a little more complicated than that. I am time constrained right now so this Wiki will have to do, but there are much more in depth info on the negative impact of hyperthreading. There is an issue with latency as well, but i well threaded and predictable situations it isnt a draw back...

Please answer the questions primetime asked. You may not be able to boot a 32nm CPU without a bios flash. Which means you would need a 920 or something just to flash the bios. What exactly did you buy? Was it supposed to be ready for 32nm six cores?

I have heard this before. About how much better frame rates? I have been trying to keep everything maxed out with 2x msaa + Txaa but that grass on ultra is killing me when I get to the outskirts and country side. It is almost perfect......

II don't know what is going on with LaCuNa's gta5 results. When I check mine, all 12 threads are being used. Most stay 30-55% with a few a few that dip slightly lower for tiny blips and others that go up to the upper 60s.

I wouldn't think its your uncore speed. Its not high at all. But as for uncore, it has to be at least 1.5x the ram speed. Any lower and you will have major issues. Just whatever ram multiplier you use, keep the uncore at least 1.5x higher. But, 3100mhz uncore isn't high at all. I...

What is your stock voltage under load? When you overclocked, did you leave everything on Auto or did you specifically select "normal" in the bios settings? Do you have speedstep, turbo, and Cstates on?

That's awesome. I am not sure what I want to do with my other ud3r/i7 920 combo. I keep thinking I want to get an x5690 or w3690. But then I think, surely they might be fun but how much more will they be able to overclock stable. Couldn't be too much higher. So that make me think about...

I have a ud3r rev 1.6 I think it has got less phases than that and i have been able to run decent enough overclocks, I settled for this mild daily driver speed for the low temps and it allows me to keep all my power savings features on, from dynamic voltage with all cstates enabled and speed...

You ask how these compare to the 4770k...... If you overclock the westmereEP to 4ghz or over, it does very well. The IPC of haswell is stronger that westmere, but its not what you might think. At 4.2ghz with 4.4 turbo, I have compared many benchmarks. For the most part, it is on par or faster...

I thought your temps seemed a little high for your cooler

Don't do 8gb x 2. Intel has greatly improved their memory and caching over the years but you will take a performance hit if you limit your cu to dual channel mode. Some apps won't show a difference but anything memory extensive will take a hit going down dual channel. You should be able to...

I have been thinking about selling my other ex58-ud3r and i7 920 while the prices are up. Instead of building another rig, i was thinking of building a brand new PC for the first time in several years. But I am having a hard time...... I can get excited about a haswell build, its just not...

For the X5650, 4-4.2ghz would be my guess for complete stability. These chips can clock and get higher, but full stability comes with lower clocks. People think these ultra high clocks are the norm but the reality is you will have to settle for lower ones if you want your PC to really be...

You can loosen up your ram timings, that could/should give you a higher ceiling. 10-10-10 might allow you to run your ram 1800mhz at the same voltage. I think its worth a shot

Using max voltages of intel spec, the realistic top speeds is 4.4-4.5ghz. If your looking for those kind of speeds, you would be better off with a chip with a higher multiplier. Its pretty common for the x5650 to land around 4.0ghz. That is if your searching for full stability. This chips...

My ex58-UD3R is a revision 1.6 with no issues.

Aida will show improvement in every single change. But that usually doesn't translate into real world gains. These are far and farther between. Honestly, I think u have great results already. There is not much you will gain from lapping, there is not much too gain in memory,.....heck, your...

I7 970? Gulftowns 6core? Well come on in. It is still pretty much the same. 6 cores 12threads, 32nm, Same voltages, etc. it is pretty much the same chip with few differences, such as: QPI speeds and slower rated ram speed. But regardless, I bet anything that you can run your ram about as...

Is that the temps of your cores? 80-82c is barely any variance. Most of the time, there is about 10c from hottest to coolest. Sometimes more. What cooler are you using? And the voltages for your overclock? I would say that as long as your temps are fine in your daily activities, don't...

That's some really nice ram speeds. You have 6 2gb sticks then? Those are great results for so many sticks. Honestly, there is very very little to gain after all the effort. I wasn't able to get my ram to boot at 2100mhz 12-12-12 timing, have tried over volting yet but 2100mhz 12cas was...

@cheesy, You aren't lying. It seems ram took a back step lately. You have really great ram speeds and timings, what voltage are you using on your DDR? Its really really hard to find decent ram timings anymore. If your looking at triple channel kits, there is virtually nothing unless you...

Yeah, I have had my x5670 for going on 4 months. I have had it overclocked to 4.2ghz all cores turbo (1.28v) with a 4.4 single core turbo. It has been rock solid, no crashes, and no blue screens. That is why this whole vtt thing was pretty strange to me. I had been running strong for so...