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Per the AVS thread, the 65" seems to be more often a victim of banding issues compared to the other sizes. You could always try for a third. I recommend you read the massive thread on the new LG OLEDs on AVS as well. They do have some drawbacks, which depending on your values and usage...

People demonstrated on the AVS forum thread that if you pass a signal from the Vizio P to a proper AVR, the AVR recognizes the signal as 4K@60Hz, with 4:4:4. However, the TV still displays what appears to be 4:2:2. So I actually think what the Vizio customer support is saying may be somewhat...

From reports on AVS, the TV supports 444 but does not display it correctly. When you connect the TV to an AVR, the signal is passes is detected as 444, so it's supported. However, there is some sort of issue with displaying it on the TV itself. Some people on AVS believe this to be a bug that...

Just fyi for those interested, the 50" P is on sale at Best Buy for $799+tax this weekend.

As a monitor, I'm not exactly sure. But as a TV, it has multiple: HDR10/DV support, WCG, VA panel (except for 55"), 1080p@120Hz (on 55"+ sizes), and a built-in Google Chromecast. But for a $1000, it's close to the price of these monitors, so from a value perspective, it might make more sense to...

With the active HDMI2-->DP1.2 adapters now available, lack of DP is no longer a big issue. Also, if you have a GPU that supports 4k@60Hz w/ 4:4:4 chroma, then you already have a HDMI2.0 port, so you don't need DP. However, the 4:4:4 chroma on the 2016 Vizio P series is current bugged. The TV...

Were you communicating with their advanced tech support? In my experience, those are the more knowledgeable people.

Thank you for following up on this. It sounds like a firmware issue rather than a hardware deficiency, so hopefully they'll include the fix in the imminent HDR10 firmware update.

Out of curiosity, in what usage scenarios does having 1080p@120Hz become significant? Are they only PC-specific? After looking through the AVSforum thread more, there are some mentions of the 4:4:4 being "blurry" or "fuzzy" compared to usual. So I guess the conclusion is that while the TV is...

There are plenty of people on the 2016 Vizio P owner's thread on AVSforum that use theirs with a PC and there are no indications that 4:4:4 is not working.

You actually saw 2016 P series at Costco? I was under the impression that Costco is only carrying the D, E, and (soon) M series until August when Best Buy's exclusivity deal with Vizio ends.

keep in mind that best buy will match the 5% off from Vizio. You could also try to get them to match the tax-free aspect of buying direct from Vizio.

I mean, the best way to know is to see both on display in Best Buy, if that's a possibility for you. General consensus is that the Vizio: has much better blacks and uniformity due to FALD, is more reflective (so better in dark room), supports both HDR10 and DV. The Samsung: has a wider color...

The 2016 series only use the mini version too. The full One Connect from JS9000, etc. has been abandoned for the time being. Maybe it'll be resurrected with Samsung's OLEDs?...

I think the huge Samsung TV thread had instructions somewhere to fix the last issue you noted.

Hisense 65" 8K TV is coming out this year with lots of bells and whistles.

Why is this worth the extra $500 over the 43" Philips 4K?

haha I wasn't clear, sorry. I completely agree that 50" is way too big for a monitor. If I got the VIzio P instead of this Philips, I would essentially be getting a TV instead of a new monitor. The Vizio would go in the living room. The thing is, I only have enough money to either buy a new...

Thanks for the link. While I agree that $800 is reasonable for what this is, it's the same price as a 50" Vizio M and only $200 less than a 50" Vizio P, so it becomes difficult to justify 800 when for 1000 I can get DV/HDR support and a giant monitor. I'm going to wait for reviews and/or...

Lol. There doesn't seem to be any reason to get the new Samsungs over the Vizio P given the price difference (and Vizio has better specs in most areas too).

I can't find this listed on Amazon US. Where do you guys see this listed for sale online? TFTcentral indicates it will be for sale in the US in late May or June.

This post on AVSforum has all the pertinent info.

Keep in mind though that the low input lag is only on HDMI5, which doesn't support 4k@60Hz w/ 4:4:4 (it does support 1080p@120Hz on all P series, except the 50")

Only the 2016 P series is capable of that. The E and M series use 60Hz panels so 120Hz is impossible.

Take a look at this thread on the Plex forums. i don't fully understand it, but it seems like the TV itself doesn't support decoding DTS, only passthrough. You can, however, transcode DTS to DD+.

Hopefully TB3/USB-C will replace both HDMI and DP.

Most people don't use OTA anymore for TV. They either have cable boxes or have "cut the cord", so getting rid of the tuner to cut costs is a pro for most. Very few TVs have DP. Also, with HDMI2.0->DP1.2 adapters available now, you don't need DP anymore.

Vizio has released their 2016 E series TVs. Some good options available for monitor use. Ultra HD Models VIZIO SmartCast 43" E-Series Ultra HD Home Theater Display (E43u-D2) MSRP $470 VIZIO SmartCast 48" E-Series Ultra HD Home Theater Display (E48u-D0) MSRP $550 VIZIO SmartCast 50" E-Series...

afaik, this is an integrated Chromecast. From reading the massive threads on AVSforum, it seems that people still use Plex/Kodi. I'm not 100% sure though. So with Plex not supporting DTS audio, what happens? Does the movie not have any audio or is it downsampled somehow?

Depends on what you value most/least. For me, I cannot stand the light bleed / glow of IPS panels, and I am only mildly sensitive to judder so VA/60 is better for me. Viewing angles are also a factor, but I will be sitting in front of my screen.

Unrelated question, but how does casting work for the new P series? I have my entire movie collection on a desktop PC. How can I "cast" those to the P series without physically connecting my PC? Do I have the option of just putting a movie on a USB and plugging it into the TV? And for...

But they basically come with Chromecast-equivalent so you can use Plex or Kodi to stream everything. Take a look at the massive AVSforum thread for more info.

Yeah the IPS glow is what I'm dreading too. I feel like at this size, it would be a miracle if there is no noticeable glow...

According to rtings the P series use PWM, but they don't elaborate on the frequency.

Thanks for writing this up!

Thanks! I'm particularly interested to see if it's actually PWM-free. This thread seems to indicate it uses PWM at 250Hz, which is horrible for anyone sensitive to PWM. But, the specs specifically list "flicker free" so I'm confused.

Where did you purchase yours from? Do these have warranties? What's the return/exchange policy? EDIT: And once you receive yours, please start a thread here and provide a review for others.

The 2016 Vizio P series is 444 and so are the 2015/2016 Samsungs. The VIzio has lower input lag afaik, but I'm not sure of the actual number.

Is there a source explicitly stating this? Samsung US website used to only show 55/65" models, but now they have 49" listed as well (the KU6300 series has a 40" listed too), so they may add 43" later too.

Using a TV as a monitor has it's pros/cons depending on what your usage is. If you're going to be reading any text on it, you want to get a TV that supports 4:4:4 chroma subsampling at 4k@60Hz. There are not many TVs that support this. Then, if you watch sports or play games, input lag and...