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What is this "PCIE Key"?

I mean, he already explored that idea thoroughly and dropped it for some reason.

Been there, done that: S3 Mini

Yes, we do. Everyone uses usb devices, but few are willing to dig through the cable mess on the back every time. This discussion exist in every case design thread. Just check the others and spare yourself the trouble of this argument.

It sounds depressing to me. But after a few successful projects it's becoming a brand. So it's kinda difficult decision.

Why the overly complicated design? Do something simple and call it a day - no risers, no overheating drives, easier cooling with front mounted huge fan, should be less than 6 liters.

Maybe there's no point to design 95% same case as Dondan's A4. If indeed you are interested in "as small as possible", you may take a look at: 500W Platinum FSP FlexATX PSU - powerful smaller PSU R9 Nano - shorter than ITX-length GPU's

I don't think this is a good idea. It means the PSU wont be ready to use out of the box.

Why water cooling would be out of question? If you can find a space for it, go!

A bit offtopic, sorry, but where can we follow your designs?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but L3 is same size as L1. With enough space for two-slot card, but only single slot card is supported. And there are smaller vented areas on top and bottom, so previous setup with two/four fans will not be working now. How is that the best from L1 and L2?

Is it possible to add 2.5/3.5 hdd mounts behind the PSU, in case ITX-sized GPU is used?

For me it will be best if ventilation openings will work as fan mounting points too. Something like this:

You can put some elongated power button (non-circular) on the opposite side of the USB connectors.

There are quite many fanless NUC cases nowadays with all kinds of options: Akasa, Impactics, TranquilPC, etc. I cannot imagine, why would anyone buy this plastic ripoff.

Would you consider some hdd mounts in the GPU freed space, in case ITX-sized GPU is used (the farthest corner in your renders) ?

Your info is a bit outdated: the high end is i5-4250U (4th gen NUC). It's Haswell dual core + HT up to 2.6MHz with HD Graphics 5000. It has hardware accelerated 4k support.

This sound really great. Can we have some new renders of the updated STX version, so we can start drooling :)

I'd prefer the large vent side panel too.

Why not just use Demciflex filters? They are magnetic, custom size/shape, shipped worldwide, etc.

Someone capable should make a custom case for ST45SF that fits in the original A4 and we can all go with the smaller A4 :)

Just move the PC on your left side.

How about the reversed GPU? Is it an option/default for any/both of the designs? Looks like the GPU can be moved a bit down, potentially reducing the extender length.

So much space wasted in the STX version. I'd prefer the default one - either original layout and DC board or if reversed GPU is confirmed with short GPU + naked SFX.

Looks like the GPU cut-outs should be moved up altogether, as well as the fastening. Have you discussed this with Lone?

Are there some misalignment issues with the case? The GPU brackets in the back shot seems to be forced in place.

Both side panels should be vented in that case.

That's some interesting news. Looking forward for you new designs :) Is it possible to flip the GPU with no so expensive risers, if the GPU is low profile? A DC board can be fit over the GPU (behind MB), even HDPlex 250W. Smallest possible case :)

Thanks for you interest. I guess this is not very popular feature. It even didn't make it in NCase M1, despite of Lian Li being a case manufacturer and possibly have everything about it. But I think the smaller a case gets, feature like that will be more needed.

The slot details are freely available: Kensington Security Slot I couldn't find any license information.

Is it possible to strengthen some spot and add a Kensington lock socket?

Do you have a case layout in mind? Maybe you should start your own design :) I've ran some calcs and it can be done at ~6.5 liters.

That's maybe the worst video card for this case.

Size should be as small as possible for me. Check the NCase steam-box - huge one. Please consider shorter video cards instead of going full size. There are now too many ITX sized (17cm long) cards, so a volume reducing can be easily achieved. ITX MB wins every time over mATX. Internal PSU is...

Because of the external brick and the combined price brick+hdplex. And if you're thinking outside of US, the price will grow even more. Also I don't like to work outside of specs. You cannot be sure that each and every HDplex 250W will do 420W. Same with the Dell AC adapter.

TechPowerUp.com did it - there was a pic back in the thread.

How about that U-bar - is it metal or plastic? Is it strong and supported enough so the case can be carried around?

Wow, I would've bought this case in a blink a few years back. Chieftec had only single expansion slot ITX cases for so long. Now I'm looking at much smaller volumes.

Thanks for the second 2.5" drive :) I'm not familiar with Lian-Li cases, so I didn't recognize the mounting. But I think my bad English led to a little misunderstanding. I was talking about the mounting plate. Is this the only thing that holds the video card in place? As the A4 case will...

Thank you, I think it's the best solution to have a choice. But now as my interest in this case is growing, I have some more questions :) 1. Is there enough space for a second 2.5" drive behind the front panel? Looking at the renders - there should be. Or at least a little modification of...