Would you buy a vid card for F model CPU?

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wandplus

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I'm just wondering how or why people buy F model CPUs. I mean there's the Ryzen 5 4500 CPU in Canada selling for $110 Canadian but if you look at the Radeon RX 6400 and GeForce GTX 1630 video cards are both above $200 Canadian.
So, what would you go for for a lower cost solution?
 
I'd look around for a good deal on a used card. If I were buying new I'd probably go for the Asrock's A580 at $165 (US).
 
Because some people have all intentions of using a videocard regardless of the CPU.
But if you were buying a 12400 at Newegg for $153 for instance, why wouldn't you buy the 12400f @ $137 knowing you were using the rig to play games and pair it with a 4060/4060Ti?

Now if it's going to be a office/FB machine than your point is valid. The IGP would be more than enough.
 
wandplus said:
I'm just wondering how or why people buy F model CPUs. I mean there's the Ryzen 5 4500 CPU in Canada selling for $110 Canadian but if you look at the Radeon RX 6400 and GeForce GTX 1630 video cards are both above $200 Canadian.
So, what would you go for for a lower cost solution?
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For low cost, Intel's integrated video features are amazing. There is a lot of software support for decoding and encoding. Its a really mature feature set, with a lot of utility. Even for video editing (especially with the newer XE graphics, which started with 11th gen Intel).

AMD's APUs are pretty nice, as well. Especially if you want to do some light gaming. Their software support for productivity isn't as good. Though it has been improving.

But the video chip on their regular Zen 4 CPUs is super basic. And support for it wasn't very good for awhile. I haven't used it since maybe November. But, back then, the drivers for the basic integrated video on Zen 4, had a lot of glitches and annoying issues with video playback, screen tearing, etc. And October/November would have been about 1 year after launch.
 
Now that I saw an RX 6600 on sale for $270 Canadian I think I know what the real problem might be. It's that they seem to refuse to sell the RX 6400 and GTX 1630 for $150 Canadian or less. My reasoning was, maybe I could build a cheap machine with an F processor and cheap 3D card then upgrade the 3D card later but I guess they're making it odd for you to even try. lol
 
Simply put, iGPU is virtually worthless to me. I always use a discreet GPU and have a few of them on hand at any given time. I don't even need them as "backups."
 
Dan_D said:
Simply put, iGPU is virtually worthless to me. I always use a discreet GPU and have a few of them on hand at any given time. I don't even need them as "backups."
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Same here. I have some really lightweight PCIe cards with no 6/8 pins like the Radeon X300 SE if I just want to POST test or have basic 2D output.

It easily makes sense for some people to budget more into a GPU and save money on the CPU. On AM5 the 7500F at around $150 is a great deal to get you into the platform.
 
Dopamin3 said:
Same here. I have some really lightweight PCIe cards with no 6/8 pins like the Radeon X300 SE if I just want to POST test or have basic 2D output.

It easily makes sense for some people to budget more into a GPU and save money on the CPU. On AM5 the 7500F at around $150 is a great deal to get you into the platform.
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If I ever built boxes that wouldn't be used primarily for gaming, I might consider an iGPU as being a value add. Or, if I did any real encoding. I don't do either of those things these days. My machines are all used for gaming at least part of the time and discreet GPU's are all I use.
 
Dan_D said:
If I ever built boxes that wouldn't be used primarily for gaming, I might consider an iGPU as being a value add. Or, if I did any real encoding. I don't do either of those things these days. My machines are all used for gaming at least part of the time and discreet GPU's are all I use.
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I'm the same but the iGPU can still be useful for a quick diagnostic test.
 
Furious_Styles said:
Lots of the time they come included now regardless. It's just one setting in the bios to disable. Haven't given a crap since Ivy.
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I don't typically care either. I don't exactly hunt down CPU's that don't have it. But the inclusion or exclusion of it makes no difference to me when purchasing CPU's for personal use. I couldn't care less if its there or not as it will always go unused in my case.
 
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