Aquaero Question and Answer Thread

Top Nurse said:
Shoggy recommended that if you do this that you should put the intake in the output side. Not sure how that would affect anything, but I assume someone has already done the footwork on that one
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The reason is simple to explain. When you drill out the intake and continue to use it as intake, you will get a wrong measurement of the flowrate because it's very unlikely that you can open it exactly(!) to 5.6mm ;)
But if you use the outlet as intake you can make sure that it has a diameter of exactly 5.6mm. Now you can use a value of 256 impules per minute because that's the value of a flowmeter which is identical in construction and has an intake with a diameter of 5.6mm.
 
Shoggy said:
The reason is simple to explain. When you drill out the intake and continue to use it as intake, you will get a wrong measurement of the flowrate because it's very unlikely that you can open it exactly(!) to 5.6mm ;)
But if you use the outlet as intake you can make sure that it has a diameter of exactly 5.6mm. Now you can use a value of 256 impules per minute because that's the value of a flowmeter which is identical in construction and has an intake with a diameter of 5.6mm.
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Well that seems reasonable. I knew it had to be something easy. ;) But what happens if you open them both up to 6mm? Can't you just run it for a minute, record your flow in liters, and then adjust the Aquaero till the readout matches what you got in your flow measurement?
 
I would say that only one minute is not enough time to achieve an accurate value for imp/l.
 
Shoggy said:
I would say that only one minute is not enough time to achieve an accurate value for imp/l.
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So how long do you think would be an accurate time? Say you run for a minute and switch the output to a new container. This should eliminate any startup sluggishness in the pumping system correct? BTW, what has been the experience of people boring out the AC flowmeter (Digmesa) in terms of flow? IIRC ShoNuff did some empirical testing between the stock Innovatek and the AC unit and got 3.61 l/m for the Innovatek and 1.60 l/m for the A-C unit using a single Aquastream (AS) at 74Hz. Can I expect a similar improvement in the modified AC unit?
 
Is it possible to use the Aqua thermal sensor probe on other LCD besides the Aquaero?
 
revlimit said:
Is it possible to use the Aqua thermal sensor probe on other LCD besides the Aquaero?
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Glad you asked over here. :D Yes you can also use it with any of the Innovatek Fan-O-Matic products. You can get the Aquaero in a lite version BTW which should be about $100 cheaper seeing how it has no display. While I haven't tried it I should think it would work with any fan/temp controller that uses NTC film thermistors.

I pulled apart an Innovatek temp probe and I assume that AC probably did the same thing. What was inside the Innovatek unit was a regular NTC film thermistor like Cooler Master sells. One of the advantages of the Aquaero is that it can be calibrated to the sensor it uses through a programmable formula in the firmware.
 
kleox64 said:
How do I get the aquaero to display english in its menus?
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You will have to flash the firmware again but at first you must change the language of the Aquasuite to english. The Aquasuite always flashs the firmware with the language which is currently used.
 
The Aquaero is nice, but it is too expensive for my blood. This is why I'm looking for an alternative. I brought a AC LED and thermal probe but didn't know that it only works with Aquaero. I think I might have to turn to Innovatek.

The cooler master has the same 2 pin plug, I wonder would it work witha Matrix Orbital or a Crystalfontz.
 
revlimit said:
The Aquaero is nice, but it is too expensive for my blood. This is why I'm looking for an alternative. I brought a AC LED and thermal probe but didn't know that it only works with Aquaero. I think I might have to turn to Innovatek.

The cooler master has the same 2 pin plug, I wonder would it work witha Matrix Orbital or a Crystalfontz.
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The temp sensor works with a lot of other devices. As I told you before you can make the LED setup work, but it will take some modding on your part with new connectors and resistors. Debatable if the Dual Aquaero LED device will work, in it's unmodified state, in any other device. BTW, there is the Aquaero LT for about a $80-100 cheaper if you don't need the display. AC also makes a version of the Aquaero with a standard LCD which is less expensive as well. IIRC the Innovatek VFD device is more expensive than the Aquaero VFD so not sure if you would be saving any money if you go that way and their software is strictly German.
 
Thanks, I'm more concern about the temp sensor as I will be using this soon. As for the LED I think I can just solder a resistor to a blue LED and connect it to a Fanbus. Appreciate the info again TN.
 
Shoggy said:
You will have to flash the firmware again but at first you must change the language of the Aquasuite to english. The Aquasuite always flashs the firmware with the language which is currently used.
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did exactly that, all fine now.

thanks
 
Here is a re-post by Shoggy of the Aquaero version 4 hardware, Tubemeter, Multiswitch, and Aquasuite software.

Shoggy said:
Dino has done a video which shows the teamwork between Aquaero, Multiswitch, Tubemeter and the Aquastream.

aquaero_multiswitch_tubemeter_500.jpg


The Video shows common controlling processes: normal use and full load while gaming. And we also have extreme situations with no waterflow and a water leakage.

You can also see a few features of the Multiswitch: scripting with macro-sequences and the outcome: a bargraph with cold-cathodes.

Download the video now! :cool:

(46mb, 7 minutes, 720x405, wmv9)

Special thanks to:

- Sergeant Rosco for the song "Desert Blues"
- Shoggy for the gaming scene (hey, that's me :eek: :D)
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Their is a new version 4.35 Aquasuite software release that fixes a few bugs if you use a Multiswitch.

Users without a Multiswitch don't need to update, as there is no new features added.
 
Too bad .net v2.0 has broken the aquasuite, this is what happens when applications heavely rely on the .net framework. Not exactly a good idea to use the aquasuite in critical applications such as servers as Topnurse suggested.
 
Shoggy said:
It also does not run on x64 windows systems :(
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Microsoft strikes again. :( So will AC be having new firmware/software that runs independent of the .NET framework?
 
I doubt it, unless they rewrite the aquasuite without .net stuff in it.
 
Okay, I'm all excited now... I finally decided to drop the bucks and get an Aquaero for the long delayed build I'm starting next month. I've got a couple questions though:

1: Has anyone ever used an Aquaero running off an internal/motherboard USB and a Crystalfontz 4x40 running off a seperate internal/motherboard USB? Are there any problems (i.e. conflicts, system stability, software considerations, etc) I should worry about?

2: Is there a backlight on the VFD version? While the green-blueish letters on the black background are okay they would really go with the rest of the theme better inverted or backlit (like in Top Nurse's picture above which I assume is some kind of LCD version).

2b: I was thinking about putting a stage light gel in front of the display to make the letters a little more blue, if I cranked the hell out of the brightness to shine through the gel how dark would it be... has anyone tried that method of changing the display color?

3: Is there any way to get the Aquasuite to display temperature in degrees F? Or at the very least replace those stupid commas with periods (like decimals are supposed to be represented as)?

Thanks much in advance...
It's good to be back after a long absence... good to see a lot of the same faces around.
 
1. Have no idea, but since each USB header runs on it's own line I don't see any problem. Unless of course you plan on using the same software to run them.

2. No backup light on a VFD. VFD = Vaccum Florescent Display Therefore you only see the lit letters.

2b. That is the generally accepted way of changing the colors on a VFD device: http://www.noritake-elec.com/colors.htm

3. Good question, but who cares? I use centigrade all day in my work so I can covert back and forth really easy.
 
Top Nurse said:
3. Good question, but who cares? I use centigrade all day in my work so I can covert back and forth really easy.
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Ah, I have missed you, Nurse.

I just dont feel like trying to calculate ((9/5)xC)+32 everytime I want to know a particular temperature in my loop. And if I have to accept that the rest of the world just wants to be different and annoy Americans with the whole metric system thing I guess I can learn to live with it. But the little commas are really getting on my nerves!

Thanks for the linky!
 
Once you use it for a while it will get easier and everyone likes temps reported in C.
 
ok i have one. can i use a 3 pin fan connector Y and hook up 2 sets of AC LEDS? the fan Y has one female and 2 male ends.
 
This connector was only designed for two LEDs. I do not really recommend to use it with four LEDs.

Also a normal Y adapter should not work because one connector has a cutted fan rpm monitor cable.
 
Shoggy said:
This connector was only designed for two LEDs. I do not really recommend to use it with four LEDs.

Also a normal Y adapter should not work because one connector has a cutted fan rpm monitor cable.
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with the multiswitch will i be able to run 2 more leds off it that?
 
The multiswitch has eight dimmable LED outputs.
 
Shoggy said:
The multiswitch has eight dimmable LED outputs.
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But can you dim or brighten the LED's (off the Multiswitch) using water temperature as a variable?
 
Shoggy said:
BellaCroix, have a look at this page. There you can see all display types.
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Now I wish I had gotten the LCD variant... it's almost a perfect match for my Crystalfontz display and would have gone much better with the rest of the case.

Ah well, guess I'll just have to try the stage light gel or try to find something like that stuff from Noritake that Nurse posted the link to. This teal text is really going to look like crap on this case. Anyone have any of either just laying around the apartment? :p

Didn't think so...

*edit* And although degrees C may be prefered by some I, personally, prefer F since I don't have to worry so much about decimal places and a proportionally growing scale... 0°C = 32°F but 100°C = 212°F? What kind of logic is that? Why not make it REALLY uber and give me my CPU temp in °K, now that would rock.
 
Shoggy said:
The multiswitch has eight dimmable LED outputs.
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How the hell do you mount this beast? Won't fit behind an Aquaero and has ZERO usable instructions in the box. Any good pics of one installed? This is the LT version BTW:

BellaCroix said:
Now I wish I had gotten the LCD variant... it's almost a perfect match for my Crystalfontz display and would have gone much better with the rest of the case.
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You and me both. I really like the look of the LCD version display much better than my VFD as it stands out with all the other blue in my case.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
How the hell do you mount this beast? Won't fit behind an Aquaero and has ZERO usable instructions in the box. Any good pics of one installed? This is the LT version BTW:


You and me both. I really like the look of the LCD version display much better than my VFD as it stands out with all the other blue in my case.
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Are you selling the VFD? :D

Where do you want to mount it? How about behind the Aquaero board? Either that or just drill 4 holes and mount it wherever you want. I thought the instructions were pretty self-explanatory as the picture says it all pretty much. What do you want to know?
 
both of you! im even gonna help look for a lcd version of the aquaero for you guys, so i can get the VFD (in green hopefully) from one of you. thats the only way i can get one, used that is, and i love it and WANT it, the vfd, or oled for that matter in green. i am against the fully lit style of the lcd, im all for the darkness of the vfd. wewt!

let the search begin!
 
Top Nurse said:
Are you selling the VFD? :D

Where do you want to mount it? How about behind the Aquaero board? Either that or just drill 4 holes and mount it wherever you want. I thought the instructions were pretty self-explanatory as the picture says it all pretty much. What do you want to know?
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Well the LT version does not fit behind the Aquero (you lose the ability to plug anything into the aqaero since the multiswitch is the same height/width) plus you then lose the ability to mount a aquastream controller behind it. I just would like some good instructions once.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Well the LT version does not fit behind the Aquero (you lose the ability to plug anything into the aqaero since the multiswitch is the same height/width) plus you then lose the ability to mount a aquastream controller behind it. I just would like some good instructions once.
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Well I had been putting this off for a while, but I guess I can assemble my Multiswitch LT so you can see the little pic's. The Aquaero, two Aquastream controllers, and a Multiswitch LT all on the same 5 1/4" mount. :p
 
el rolio said:
both of you! im even gonna help look for a lcd version of the aquaero for you guys, so i can get the VFD (in green hopefully) from one of you. thats the only way i can get one, used that is, and i love it and WANT it, the vfd, or oled for that matter in green. i am against the fully lit style of the lcd, im all for the darkness of the vfd. wewt!

let the search begin!
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If I can't get acceptable results using some kind of colored film or light gel that may be a possibility. The examples on the website TN posted above look like they'd be pretty cool but I'm not sure what the real world results would be and don't think I'll be able to find any of that film around.
 
BellaCroix said:
If I can't get acceptable results using some kind of colored film or light gel that may be a possibility. The examples on the website TN posted above look like they'd be pretty cool but I'm not sure what the real world results would be and don't think I'll be able to find any of that film around.
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You should be able to get those filters at any photographic store (a real camera store). It is often used for background lighting on sets. Comes in smaller pieces for camera work and you should be able to get just about any tint that warms your heart. :) B&W also carries the stuff.
 
I loooove my aquaero. Is my water temp sensor defective if it idles around 28 and loads around 33? Seems like a very small delta to me...
 
Dillusion said:
I loooove my aquaero. Is my water temp sensor defective if it idles around 28 and loads around 33? Seems like a very small delta to me...
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Top Nurse said:
You should be able to get those filters at any photographic store (a real camera store). It is often used for background lighting on sets. Comes in smaller pieces for camera work and you should be able to get just about any tint that warms your heart. :) B&W also carries the stuff.
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Thanks much... I knew about the stage lighting ones, I used to work setting up concerts at a local venue and spent plenty of time walking rigging and catwalks changing stage light gels.

I figure I'm going to try using Cookin filter film and see how that works. Does the VFD already have a gel installed? Do I need to remove that first (like inverting an LCD) or just slap the new colored film over top of the display?
 
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