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Zarathustra[H]

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r/homelabsales is a great place to sell hardware that you no longer want. Dont throw it away as some of us can def use it.

The problem with some of this stuff is that the value just isn't there to warrant the work, take pictures, post a listing, deal with the bullshit, package it up, and take it to the post office and ship it.

I used to never sell anything unless I could at least get $200-$300 for it. It just wasn't worth my time.
 
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The problem with some of this stuff is that the value just isn't there to warrant the work take pictures, post a listing, deal with the bullshit, package it up, and take it to the post office and ship it.

I used to never sell anything unless I could at least get $200-$300 for it. It just wasn't worth my time.
This is where it’s getting.
Unless it returns a minimum of $100- too much risk of something going wrong or sideways.
 
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You really do need professional help. What kind of moron pays $600 when you can buy the identical thing for $4? Oh, wait...

I still can't believe you've been a member of this forum for over a decade.
These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
 
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These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
You're right, everyone else is wrong, that's why it's still listed over 2 years later when you bumped this to insult people and justify the price.
 

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These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
That same Dell server you mentioned that cost $10,000 probably isn't worth 10% of its original price. The fact that you think 10-25% off hardware from the Ivy Bridge-E era (let that sink in) is worth close to its original retail price (minus 10-25%) is laughable and always was. Even back in 2020. For reference, your CPU's are worth $6.99 now. There is nothing special about any of that hardware and no reason it should retain its value better than anything else.
 

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Oh. This again.

I literally just GAVE AWAY the last of the Ivy Bridge era kit we had in the lab. Wasn't worth trying to part out or list - and a kid needed it to learn on. Two R720s with PERC Raid cards (BBU is dead, but we put in 6x800G Enterprise SSDs for him), and an R820 - with 768G of RAM in the damned thing (but the PSU firmware is wonky).

It doesn't matter what they cost when you bought them. It matters what they're worth now. That kit is as close to free as one can get.
 
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Oh. This again.

I literally just GAVE AWAY the last of the Ivy Bridge era kit we had in the lab. Wasn't worth trying to part out or list - and a kid needed it to learn on. Two R720s with PERC Raid cards (BBU is dead, but we put in 6x800G Enterprise SSDs for him), and an R820 - with 768G of RAM in the damned thing (but the PSU firmware is wonky).

It doesn't matter what they cost when you bought them. It matters what they're worth now. That kit is as close to free as one can get.
You're an idiot then because you could have cleaned it up with an anti-static blower and parted out the good parts to sell. I would have told the kid to get a job and if he was really young as in under 18 I would have told him that you don't need a server because it's not a toy and there nothing, but junk on the internet anyway and there's nothing worth looking up on it either as well as go read books about computers in addition to telling them to find the good books on computers not give him a free handout on hardware that costs a fortune. However, apparently I'm the idiot in this situation because I don't give away a server that almost costed $4000 to build away for free and apparently I would be the mean person for not giving some kid a free server too. Anyway though my server hasn't been used hardly at all and your lab server has been running 24 / 7 for who knows how long, so that's a pretty big difference between your story and what I'm selling.
 

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You're an idiot then because you could have cleaned it up with an anti-static blower and parted out the good parts to sell. I would have told the kid to get a job and if he was really young as in under 18 I would have told him that you don't need a server because it's not a toy and there nothing,

Someone gave me my first server and it was basically planting a seed and went from being a T1 call taker on a support team to a network administrator. Now i have a shit ton of servers and a full 42u rack and a enterprise level network stack that i bought. I only have one Ivy Bridge server still in use in my lab and its doing firewall/router duty but im looking for something newer, single cpu, and less heat/power draw. Were getting ready to decommission 30 13th gen dells with haswell v3 chips in them. A couple me and some friends are going to get and the rest will be given away to people who want to learn and the rest will be donated to a school.

But good luck with your fuck you pay me MSRP for several generation old hardware. Seems to be working out great for you with this server. Meanwhile were creating IT professionals.
 

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Someone gave me my first server and it was basically planting a seed and went from being a T1 call taker on a support team to a network administrator. Now i have a shit ton of servers and a full 42u rack and a enterprise level network stack that i bought. I only have one Ivy Bridge server still in use in my lab and its doing firewall/router duty but im looking for something newer, single cpu, and less heat/power draw. Were getting ready to decommission 30 13th gen dells with haswell v3 chips in them. A couple me and some friends are going to get and the rest will be given away to people who want to learn and the rest will be donated to a school.

But good luck with your fuck you pay me MSRP for several generation old hardware. Seems to be working out great for you with this server. Meanwhile were creating IT professionals.
I have exactly TWO pre-broadwell boxes left out of close to 100 in the lab. One is a TORbox (top of rack routing/storage/domain services), and we use it because it has an integrated SAS card on the mobo plus a lot of SATA ports (it's a primary site, so the lifeboat storage location is pretty large). One is an older storage array that we're just eking life out of - once it dies, it'll get replaced by something newer, it's just not worth fiddling with for 6T of hybrid storage if it keeps going (and everything on there is backed up.
 

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You're an idiot then because you could have cleaned it up with an anti-static blower and parted out the good parts to sell.
Why? I'd have either broken even on the shipping (CPUs), made $5 (the RAM after shipping), or lost money. Not worth the effort. Even the RAM isn't worth parting out - and I sold a LOT of it recently here. Just too old.
I would have told the kid to get a job and if he was really young as in under 18 I would have told him that you don't need a server because it's not a toy
What. How do you think most of us built our careers? I was playing with Sparc IPX + IPCs when I was 15, SparcStation 20s when I was 20, and so on. This is how you learn. Toy has a lot of different meanings.
and there nothing, but junk on the internet anyway and there's nothing worth looking up on it either as well
What.
as go read books about computers in addition to telling them to find the good books on computers
You're joking right? Books? Seriously? Outdated by the time they're PRINTED. Everything is on the internet. I haven't bought a book that wasn't published by a friend or a serious conceptual reference (VXLAN reference was good, as was the new Geneve based one for NSX) in 15 years for good reason. They can't update. That means they're NOT VALUABLE after a year max - just like the hardware loses value. (note, this is reference material I'm talking about - I live on real books and others - tech field moves too fast)
not give him a free handout on hardware that costs a fortune.
The hardware is cheap. And old. And pretty useless TBH. Can't run ESX8 without a bypass script even.
However, apparently I'm the idiot in this situation because I don't give away a server that almost costed $4000 to build away for free and apparently I would be the mean person for not giving some kid a free server too.
I never said you'd be mean if you didn't give yours away. I said it's not worth $4000. I buy/sell/trade/move a LOT of hardware - I know what it's worth.
Anyway though my server hasn't been used hardly at all and your lab server has been running 24 / 7 for who knows how long, so that's a pretty big difference between your story and what I'm selling.
Servers are designed to run 24/7 for a long time - those boxes are fine, minus the wonky PSU firmware (yay prototypes).

Used or not, the CPU is worth about $10 max. This isn't a car, it's not "vintage," nor is it unique. Old server kit is - well - old server kit. It was this or the scrapper - and this way, some kids learn some neat things.
 

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These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
So, you're necroing your own thread to let us all know that in the last 2 years you couldn't find a buyer and you're still selling it for the same price (less inflation)? Good on you for sticking to your guns.

As that idiot you refer to who offered you a cool $350 back in the day, let me show you a little picture I just took:

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That, my not friend, is a dual socket 2011 server that I acquired, from this forum, Corsair 900D case included, for just the $160 cost of shipping. And all I really wanted was the case. Same board as yours, dual 2670s, 80GB of memory, quiet coolers, and a few parts I didn't need. But, since I decided to make some use of it while I wait for something better to come along, I spent a whopping $100 to upgrade to dual 2697 v2s (the best Ivy's released), and a few more bucks because the included memory was too slow for my tastes. Everything else I needed (video card, SSD, PSU) came from my spare parts bin. That is the value of what you're trying to offload.

That case in the bottom right corner of the pic? Houses a Xeon v3 setup (soon to be higher end v4) purchased for about $300 total, but only because I needed a new PSU and cooler to go with it.

And since you're also bitching about the cost of Xeon Scalables, there's a guy in FS selling a few Xeon-SP Gold 6248s (Cascade Lake, 20C/40T) for $850 apiece, and a board can be found for about $400. Epyc 7001 systems are quite affordable-a dual 7601 system with board can be had for $1000. Chassis is irrelevant because home users largely don't care whether rackmounted or not (or can buy them for cheap and use regular non-screaming PSUs).
 

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These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
It has been two years. How are you still this angry? This thread had passed into the mists of forum history, and now something in your life has inflamed your memory and brought you back… to what? Vent your rage that you asked too much for aging server hardware, which the market itself confirmed by not paying you? Did something wound your pride, and make you feel compelled to defend your decisions all over again?

It’s not my job to understand where you’re coming from. If you’re here looking for a fight in 2022, you’ve lost, and I don’t just mean on [H]ardForum. Cut your losses and move on.
 

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You think computer hardware is practically free too

Hardware that old practically is free. That's what you don't understand. Computer hardware isn't an investment. It drops in value from day one and usually bottoms out to a few bucks after a few years. It's worse than cars and car parts in terms of depreciation.
 

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Hardware that old practically is free. That's what you don't understand. Computer hardware isn't an investment. It drops in value from day one and usually bottoms out to a few bucks after a few years. It's worse than cars and car parts in terms of depreciation.
Heck, my current lab is... well, insane doesn't quite do it justice. Lets just say that we count memory in TB per site - and it's generally more than one digit on that number. And that's all from cast-offs and part-outs.
 

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You think computer hardware is practically free too.

Hardware that old practically is free. That's what you don't understand. Computer hardware isn't an investment. It drops in value from day one and usually bottoms out to a few bucks after a few years. It's worse than cars and car parts in terms of depreciation.

Jesus, are we still at this?

All things depreciate. Computer hardware is renown for depreciating faster than than pretty much anything else. Cars are up there too, but they generally don't depreciate as fast as computer hardware.

As soon as you open the packaging the computer hardware came in, it loses a significant amount of value, because now it is no longer "new", it has been touched by someone who may or may not know what they are doing, warranty may be impacted, etc.

Then it continues to depreciate as it gets older and newer hardware that outperforms it and uses less power enters the market.

Usually a year or two later, you'd be lucky to get half of what you spent for something new if you sell it.

In this case you are talking about hardware that was launched almost a decade ago.

Yes, this hardware is almost without value at this point. It is old, and has depreciated so far as to be almost completely without value. These old 22nm chips use so much more power than modern server chips that you could pay for the upgrade to a newer CPU just with your electric bill savings over a few years.

If you part it out, you might get $5 each for the CPU's, maybe $100 for the Supermicro motherboard. The drives are useless, they are used. No one wants used hard drives for reliability reasons. The RAID controller is not what anyone wants anymore. I have like three of those old things in a box somewhere I can't even give away. The RAM is barely worth anything either, because of its small amount. Oh and its DDR3. The world moved on to DDR4 a long time ago, and is starting to transition to DDR5.

In 2013 when it launched, and all the parts were new, this server was probably worth a couple of grand. Maybe even more. Today you'd be lucky if you found someone who wanted to pay $150 for the whole thing.

Most servers of this vintage have already been scrapped. Everyone who is still using a server of this vintage is seriously considering getting rid of it and getting something newer. (I know, because I am one of them) At this point is is borderline e-waste.

I understand human bias, over-estimating the value of something you have, but WOW, OP has taken this to such an extreme as to be almost unbelievable.

In most hobbies you never get back anywhere near what you put into them. Cars, boats, computers, it goes for all of them. Especially computers. As you are using them, they depreciate towards oblivion. After a few years its usually not even worth selling them anymore, as they simply aren't worth enough.
 
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Very cool.

I wouldn't know what to do with all of that power and RAM, but still very cool indeed.

My needs seem to top out at around 256GB and 32 threads, where they ahve been mostly static for years.
Writing code against all sorts of app platforms. We’re about to deploy kubernetes into that environment, plus big databases and other stuff. It’s all testing and learning and fiddling.
 

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These processors weren't available for a messly $4 when I bought them for you information, so who's the moron cheapskate now. You think computer hardware is practically free too, which also makes you the moron because you think I can afford to just sell my hardware at an extremely low price like I'm giving it away and that would really make me dumb too. However, that's how dumb you and the idiot who suggested that I sell my server for $100 or $350 want me to be.

By the way none of you people are helping either and all I'm seeing are complaints about the price of all the hardware that comes with the server too, which I'm offering 10 to 25 percent off the total price with buy it now or best offer anyway making the price $3549.69 at 10 percent and $2958.31 at 25 percent off with an extra chassis and motherboard. Also, I need about $1700 just to build at least one 1U server that only consumes 350 watts to keep my total power load under 3000 watts.

Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
We've shown you how none of that hardware is worth what you paid for it less 10-25% of its original price. That's NOT how the market works with used computer hardware. What you have isn't worth much more than the total cost of shipping of that hardware. No hardware approaching ten years old would be worth 75-90% of its original purchase price regardless of how little it was used. You are living in a fantasy land.

Show me where Dell is trying to charge $10,000 for a similar spec'ed system because it isn't doing that.
 

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Well that was a fun read. I built , because I wanted too, not because it was the best technical solution, a ground up, case and all, server along the specs of the OP in March 21. Paid less that 450 all in less than Hard Drives, but with 2670s, 128gb ram, a bigger X9 MB, 2 lsi cards.

OP please take the advice of those in this thread. I've been here a long time. I built my server because I wanted too, never had a dual Xeon build, left IT right after getting my certs 20+ years ago and never entered the field professionally. If in March of 21 I had wanted to do it right, and not just having fun with a bit of free cash, I would have asked the guys here, like Dad D and lopeteve and listened.

Or don't, and good luck making rent.
 

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F me. .what did I just read
If the OP is this salty over some old ass server hardware.. imagine him in a few years if he were to attempt to offload a GPU purchased during the previous scalping/gouging era.
He'll endure heart attack level saltiness
🤣
 

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Another thing is that I compared the price of the hardware I'm selling to a Dell server with the same 2011v2 processors that was listed under refurbished on Dell's website and it would $10,000 to get the same thing as what I'm offering here. Also, normally ebay with provide a squaretrade warranty with items like this that I'm trying to sell that are new or new other. Lastly, as I said before computer hardware has gotten a lot better now, so this hardware should retain it's value a lot better and besides it's not like any of you are going to get newer hardware with Intel Xeon Scalable or AMD Epyc for less than the cost of the hardware I'm selling at 10 to 25 percent off and in a 2U chassis in this good of condition.
Oh. I missed this gem. Sec...

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Same cluster as before. You were saying?

Point to be made - this is a HOME environment. What's a warranty?!
 

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F me. .what did I just read
If the OP is this salty over some old ass server hardware.. imagine him in a few years if he were to attempt to offload a GPU purchased during the previous scalping/gouging era.
He'll endure heart attack level saltiness
🤣
We're safe. He can't buy anything else until he offloads this heap.
 

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I’m sure he is but it’s entertaining none the less,

I went back on some of the OP's post history.... holy $hit.. There are some gems scattered around there lol

For someone with 3+ associate degrees.. he sure has a lack of awareness on appreciation/depreciation/economics ... He needs to turn those degrees back in
 

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This thread really needs to go in the hall of fame. I feel like OP is trolling or something, this can't be real.

I’m sure he is but it’s entertaining none the less,

Given his post history, I don't think he is trolling. There are people out there who get hung up on how much they spent on something and refuse to accept the reality of depreciation. They can't stand the idea that what they paid so much money for is essentially worthless now. He also had some weird ideas about Threadripper motherboards being gaming boards and that it wasn't true workstation/server hardware and therefore couldn't be as good as this abomination at doing all the stuff he wanted to do. He was told when he wanted to build that already dated hardware that he was spending way more for half the performance of a Threadripper that would do everything he wanted to do and then some. Of course when asked about his uses for the system, he basically responded with just about everything excluding gaming. He talked about building his own operating system and learning different program languages, to video editing, 3D rendering and a bunch of other stuff that no one person can effectively learn within the expected service life of any computer system.

He's way too consistent in his behavior and way too defensive about his choices and line of thinking to be trolling. I could be wrong, there are some amazingly committed trolls out there but I don't think this guy is one of them. I think he's on the spectrum or something.

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If nothing else, the OP is one of those elaborate dreamers that has too many thoughts and ideas and lacks the drive and focus to hone in on any one of them and see it through to some type of success. Oh, I believe part of the issue here if memory serves is that he financed this crap machine. This dude's "server" hardware is less useful than that piece of shit 10k desk.
 
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Oh. This again.

I literally just GAVE AWAY the last of the Ivy Bridge era kit we had in the lab. Wasn't worth trying to part out or list - and a kid needed it to learn on. Two R720s with PERC Raid cards (BBU is dead, but we put in 6x800G Enterprise SSDs for him), and an R820 - with 768G of RAM in the damned thing (but the PSU firmware is wonky).

It doesn't matter what they cost when you bought them. It matters what they're worth now. That kit is as close to free as one can get.
That's why I give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of the everything included, but you fail to see that and expect it to be free.
 

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That's why I give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of the everything included, but you fail to see that and expect it to be free.
You gave the same discount 2 years ago. You haven't cut the price at all.

We don't expect you to give it away, but your expectation of what someone is willing to pay (the "market value") is extremely unrealistic. Even at a very low price (i.e., near free) you will have difficulty finding a buyer.

How many serious at-price inquiries have you ever received for this kit?
 
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You're right, everyone else is wrong, that's why it's still listed over 2 years later when you bumped this to insult people and justify the price.
It's been 4 years not 2 years and I'm justifying the price because I'm nice enough to give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of what I need to sell all this hardware for as well as tell you how much 10 percent and 25 percent off the price is, so that you don't have to do the math yourselves. Besides the processors still aren't worth no messly $4 to $5 dollars when they go for a minimum of $24.99 each at lowest for retail boxed processors on newegg here Dell 338-BDLN Intel Xeon E5-2600 v2 E5-2609 v2 Quad-core (4 Core) 2.50 GHz Processor Upgrade and $77.14 each at the most for retail boxed processors on newegg here Intel Xeon E5-2609 v2 Ivy Bridge-EP 2.5 GHz 10MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 80W BX80635E52609V2 Server Processor , which is exactly what I have included in the listing.

If you don't like it then why don't you just buy it an swap out the motherboard and processors for Xeon Scalable processor(s) and a Supermicro X11DAI motherboard(s) as DDR4 ECC RAM. Then see if you can sell two Supermicro X9DAI motherboards, Intel Xeon 2609v2 processors, and Black Diamond ECC DDR3 memory any better than me a make a decent amount of money off the hardware. You're practically paying maybe somewhere around $77.14 for each processor at 25 percent off anyway, so why are you all complaining so much and if not you're still almost getting $1000 off everything included plus you get an extra motherboard as well as extra case with extra power supplies that are the best that you can custom build a 2U server with. Also, each motherboard supports up to 1 Terabyte of DD3 ECC Random Access Memory while my Gigabyte 7PESH3 only supports up to 256 GB of DDR3 ECC RAM and ASUS as ASRock alternatives only support up to 512 GB of DDR3 ECC RAM.
 
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It's been 4 years not 2 years and I'm justifying the price because I'm nice enough to give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of what I need to sell all this hardware for as well as tell you how much 10 percent and 25 percent off the price is, so that you don't have to do the math yourselves. Besides the processors still aren't worth no messly $4 to $5 dollars when they go for a minimum of $24.99 each at lowest for retail boxed processors on newegg here Dell 338-BDLN Intel Xeon E5-2600 v2 E5-2609 v2 Quad-core (4 Core) 2.50 GHz Processor Upgrade and $77.14 each at the most for retail boxed processors on newegg here Intel Xeon E5-2609 v2 Ivy Bridge-EP 2.5 GHz 10MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 80W BX80635E52609V2 Server Processor , which is exactly what I have included in the listing.

If you don't like it then why don't you just buy it an swap out the motherboard and processors for Xeon Scalable processor(s) and a Supermicro X11DAI motherboard(s) as DDR4 ECC RAM. Then see if you can sell two Supermicro X9DAI motherboards, Intel Xeon 2609v2 processors, and Black Diamond ECC DDR3 memory any better than me a make a decent amount of money off the hardware.
Newegg 3rd party sellers are not acceptable for price comparisons. They are well known for overcharging and sketchiness. Here, have an ebay link: $4.69. Remember, I bought 2697 v2's for $50 each. Used is acceptable when failure replacement cost is so low.

We aren't out to make any money off your sale. We can't. Stop deluding yourself. Find an IT guy in a company desperate for like-replacement hardware because his boss won't listen to him. There's your sale.
 

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That's why I give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of the everything included, but you fail to see that and expect it to be free.
Off of list from 10 years ago. I'll go back to my original point - when I can get Xeon Platinums for relatively cheap now (the first gen Skylake is coming off warranty), why would I buy a 10 year old chip? Back when you tried to sell this they still had some value - software is officially dropping support for Sandy/Ivy at this point, which means the value is effectively zero - can't even use them in a home lab for much longer.


It's been 4 years not 2 years and I'm justifying the price because I'm nice enough to give 10 percent to 25 percent off the total price of what I need to sell all this hardware for as well as tell you how much 10 percent and 25 percent off the price is, so that you don't have to do the math yourselves. Besides the processors still aren't worth no messly $4 to $5 dollars when they go for a minimum of $24.99 each at lowest for retail boxed processors on newegg here Dell 338-BDLN Intel Xeon E5-2600 v2 E5-2609 v2 Quad-core (4 Core) 2.50 GHz Processor Upgrade and $77.14 each at the most for retail boxed processors on newegg here Intel Xeon E5-2609 v2 Ivy Bridge-EP 2.5 GHz 10MB L3 Cache LGA 2011 80W BX80635E52609V2 Server Processor , which is exactly what I have included in the listing.
So sell them for that price? If you think you can get it? Almost no one wants processors that old anymore - and those that do need a like-for-like for some poor business reason.
If you don't like it then why don't you just buy it an swap out the motherboard and processors for Xeon Scalable processor(s) and a Supermicro X11DAI motherboard(s) as DDR4 ECC RAM.
Because I have plenty of those already. I'd rather have them in a rack mount case, or if I'm going to build a workstation out of them (something I'm actually considering), I'll be picking up a ASUS Sage board and putting it in a normal desktop case that's reasonably sized.
Then see if you can sell two Supermicro X9DAI motherboards, Intel Xeon 2609v2 processors, and Black Diamond ECC DDR3 memory any better than me a make a decent amount of money off the hardware.
We can't. No one can - it just doesn't have any value anymore. It ~might~ in another 10 years or so when it becomes vintage, if there's some reason to run stuff from this era (see also: Pentium Pro, older SPARC, etc) - but that's much less likely with this generation of kit given that emulators and virtualization exist.
You're practically paying maybe somewhere around $77.14 for each processor at 25 percent off anyway, so why are you all complaining so much and if not you're still almost getting $1000 off everything included plus you get an extra motherboard as well as extra case with extra power supplies that are the best that you can custom build a 2U server with. Also, each motherboard supports up to 1 Terabyte of DD3 ECC Random Access Memory while my Gigabyte 7PESH3 only supports up to 256 GB of DDR3 ECC RAM and ASUS as ASRock alternatives only support up to 512 GB of DDR3 ECC RAM.
Because none of that is useful anymore. And you're still charging a ton for it - a TB of DDR3 is... well, why? The power to energize that isn't worth what you can get out of it these days.

Four years ago I would have potentially bought some of the kit for lab use. Two years ago we still had some in use. Now? Now I'm starting to swap out Broadwell for newer kit as the Skylake chips come off the 5 year depreciation cycle early.

We're trying to help you get whatever value you can out of the system before moving on to something else. We're not trying to scam you.
 
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Off of list from 10 years ago. I'll go back to my original point - when I can get Xeon Platinums for relatively cheap now (the first gen Skylake is coming off warranty), why would I buy a 10 year old chip? Back when you tried to sell this they still had some value - software is officially dropping support for Sandy/Ivy at this point, which means the value is effectively zero - can't even use them in a home lab for much longer.



So sell them for that price? If you think you can get it? Almost no one wants processors that old anymore - and those that do need a like-for-like for some poor business reason.

Because I have plenty of those already. I'd rather have them in a rack mount case, or if I'm going to build a workstation out of them (something I'm actually considering), I'll be picking up a ASUS Sage board and putting it in a normal desktop case that's reasonably sized.

We can't. No one can - it just doesn't have any value anymore. It ~might~ in another 10 years or so when it becomes vintage, if there's some reason to run stuff from this era (see also: Pentium Pro, older SPARC, etc) - but that's much less likely with this generation of kit given that emulators and virtualization exist.

Because none of that is useful anymore. And you're still charging a ton for it - a TB of DDR3 is... well, why? The power to energize that isn't worth what you can get out of it these days.

Four years ago I would have potentially bought some of the kit for lab use. Two years ago we still had some in use. Now? Now I'm starting to swap out Broadwell for newer kit as the Skylake chips come off the 5 year depreciation cycle early.

We're trying to help you get whatever value you can out of the system before moving on to something else. We're not trying to scam you.
I've only had this hardware for 4 years because I bought it to see if my Intel Xeon E5-2603v2's still worked and they do, so I'm selling this stuff and I need a 1U server that supports only up to 350 watts instead of a 2U server that supports up to 1400 Watts with redundant 700 Watt Power Supplies. I bought the Supermicro X9DAI motherboard because I didn't trust my Gigabyte 7PESH3 anymore after the Intel Xeon E5-2603v2's wouldn't post with an PNY Nvidia Quadro 420 graphics card instead of a PNY Quadro K620 that's included in this listing instead of the PNY Quadro K420. I messed up the 32 GB of WIntec ECC DDR3 from the build that used the 7PESH3 when I accidently grab them like a handle and Wintec doesn't make memory anymore, which I would charge more if they did because Wintec was expensive at around $300 for a 16 GB kit and $600 for a 32 GB kit and more for for a 64 GB kit or higher. I switched to Supermicro motherboards because Supermicro didn't like that I was using a Gigabyte motherboard in their 2U chassis when I RMA'd the original chassis when it was still under warranty.

I built the first server I completed with the Gigabyte 7PESH3 and a 4U Supermicro Chassis in the Summer of 2014. I downgraded from the 4U chassis using the Gigabyte 7PESH3 in 2016 and then the server went haywire in 2018, so I RMA'd every part and when I got the processors back I bought the Supermicro X9DAI as well as a new Supermicro SC825TQ-700LPB chassis plus a new PNY Quadro K620 along with 32 GB of Black Diamond ECC memory to including the Intel Xeon E5-2609v2's with $8000 of Paypal credit in 2018. Then I bought an Extra Supermicro X9DAI motherboard a few months after that with the $8000 of PayPal credit in 2018. Keep in mind that the motherboards, processors, and memory aka RAM is only 3 generations old and was the first generation Xeon processor to support OS Guard. The server is now 6 years old, but hasn't been used much except to test the Intel Xeon E5-2603v2's. I know you want a warranty, but I just can't give you that and ebay usually provides a warranty automatically with squaretrade if they do it at all. I need to buy two 1 server though not just one because one for my access with distribution layer and I need one for my campus layer. Plus 10 percent to 25 is plenty good enough because your almost getting $1000 if your not and most retailers try to make 33 percent profit, so their price might 33 percent higher and Dell wants $10,000 or more for a similar build with Intel Xeon E5-2600v2 processor support.
 
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