Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Nvme drive 4 x 4.0 $179.99 @ Microcenter

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Samsung 990 Pro @ Amazon $313.21 not available at Microcenter

HUGE SPEED BOOST: Get random read/write speeds that are 40%/55% faster than 980 PRO; Experience up to 1400K/1550K IOPS, while sequential read/write speeds up to 7,450/6,900 MB/s reach near the max performance of PCIe 4.0*
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Good find - currently looking for a SSD for my PS5 and this should work quite well.
 
Damn it I just paid 220 for it from best buy but I had a 60 gift card almost the same but I still wasted more than I should have aghhhhhh and to top it off It's a hot little sucker I had to rearrange some thermal pads to decrease the temp by about 10 degrees I made a post about it last week.
 
Thanks for the add. I paid more for that for the 970 Pro awhile back.
qdemn7 said:
Massive price cut due to ----

Samsung 990 Pro launches November 14 @ Amazon 289.99
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^ that link didn't work for me. https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Internal-Expansion-MZ-V9P2T0B-AM/dp/B0BHJJ9Y77/

Spread the money around. BH Photo has it at same price with free shipping. Unlike Amazon, they also have the one with a heatsink for $20 more.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1726548-REG/samsung_mz_v9p2t0b_am_2tb_990_pro_pcie.html
 
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Phantom9309 said:
It says 10% if you have an Amazon credit card.
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It shows for me, UP TO 10% cash back, up to being the key.

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Dang, got this drive at the last Prime Day over the summer for $200 at the time. Didn't think it would drop much lower than that.
SeymourGore said:
Good find - currently looking for a SSD for my PS5 and this should work quite well.
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Yup, works great in my PS5.
 
Newegg had this for a few days at $180 with another $10 off with promo code: https://www.newegg.com/promotions/nepro/22-1949/index.html

Promo is now only $5 off and they're backordered, so I guess it was too popular of a deal. Last year, the sales prices became the new prices and there were a few more aggressive sales like Quadpay discounts on top of sale prices, so if you're not in a hurry, there may be even better deals on these closer to Xmas.

I picked up two last year for my new build and they've been great, not sure the 990 Pro will be worth the extra cash unless you're running a DB or doing some serious video editing. My drives are mostly twiddling their thumbs and still loading games about as fast as a 2.5" SATA SSD drive based on Task Manager throughput, DirectStorage has been a huge disappointment in terms of adoption on the PC for some reason and it doesn't look like there's much momentum to change that situation any time soon.
 
No ambiguous "up to" 10% off for me. Just 10% straight up. I do have an Amazon card though. Prettty much so I can occasionally get 10% off things. I had a Chase card that gives 5% already when I got it a few years back. I was on a spree and was getting 10% on musical instruments. I don't know how many people have this or not, but thought it worth mentioning.


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I usually alternate between these and Sabrent Rocket equivalents. 980 Pro nor the Sabrent have let me down.. definitely warm drives tho.

Get it while it's hot!
 
I was wondering why the 980 PRO's were always bouncing up and down around the same area for me even in Canada. I snagged 2 off Ebaay months back for about $300 CAD when they were usually $500+, but now and then you would see them drop to like $350 for a fire sale....guess some of the stores knew something was coming soon enough.
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
These are awesome NVME drivers, I have 2 in my gaming PC.
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Just don't use them with linux, they barely get 50% of the performance they should under the linux kernel sadly and Samsung has not addresses why, meanwhile every other NVMe you can get full speeds on.
 
MrGuvernment said:
I was wondering why the 980 PRO's were always bouncing up and down around the same area for me even in Canada. I snagged 2 off Ebaay months back for about $300 CAD when they were usually $500+, but now and then you would see them drop to like $350 for a fire sale....guess some of the stores knew something was coming soon enough.
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Yeah SSD pricing has been bouncing around, and hard to plan/predict. There was a 4TB WD SN850X for $399 for exactly two days about a month ago but I didn't buy because I assumed the drop was due to the downward-trending of SSD prices overall, and thus "wait because it'll go lower". And it returned to $499 and stayed there since. Of course, there are a lot of other variables that factor which we don't have visibility of.
 
Excellent NVMe at an amazing price! I have one in my new build. Never had a single problem with any Samsung drive.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Just don't use them with linux, they barely get 50% of the performance they should under the linux kernel sadly and Samsung has not addresses why, meanwhile every other NVMe you can get full speeds on.
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This is not something I've seen before. Any articles/reviews/etc. you can link to? I'd like to read up on this as it could affect my next build.
 
Mad Maxx said:
Excellent NVMe at an amazing price! I have one in my new build. Never had a single problem with any Samsung drive.
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I have never had any issues with the Samsung 900 series nvme m.2 drives AFTER properly cooling them with either a EK heatsink or adding the proper thermal pads to level the controller to the same height as the ram to have even contact from the motherboards built in m.2 heatsink cover.

I posted it here
https://hardforum.com/threads/id-like-to-share-why-most-m-2-nvme-drives-are-hot.2022991/

The ram and controller are way off level so unless you add the correct height thermal pads on the controller It's not even contacting it.
 
xDiVolatilX said:
Raid?
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I have a pair in mine as well, but they are separate drives.
OS and Programs on the 1TB and Games on the 2TB Drives.
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They also have a lot of endurance, this one which was used for Chia plotting has almost 1PB written to it.
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xDiVolatilX said:
Raid?
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Not currently. Right now the nvme connected to my CPU lanes is my primary and has Windows 11 on it. The secondary is on my chipset lanes and is my older windows 10 one. Once I confirmed windows 11 worked perfectly for gaming and no performance issues, I have since turned it into my backup nvme for imaging. So if one of my drives go down, or an update hoses something, I just swap drives as the image is something I take once every other month or so.
 
BlueLineSwinger said:
This is not something I've seen before. Any articles/reviews/etc. you can link to? I'd like to read up on this as it could affect my next build.
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I run Manjaro, and I can only get about half the performance it is spec'd for, in terms of raw throughput, everything else is good, but I have not been able to see over 4-5Gbs of speeds on it in tests. The below thread is more around databases, but this week I can do some tests again on my Manjaro install to show you the performance numbers.

https://www.phoronix.com/review/samsung-980-pro

Note for Canadians, 980 PRO from Memx is $249.99 for the 2TB
https://www.phoronix.com/review/samsung-980-pro

Some noted about a bug firmware was supposed to fix where the cache does not empty and you end up getting TLC speeds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/loey0b/980_pro_firmware/

https://vintologi.com/threads/samsung-980-pro-review.891/post-5041
 
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xDiVolatilX said:
I have never had any issues with the Samsung 900 series nvme m.2 drives AFTER properly cooling them with either a EK heatsink or adding the proper thermal pads to level the controller to the same height as the ram to have even contact from the motherboards built in m.2 heatsink cover.

I posted it here
https://hardforum.com/threads/id-like-to-share-why-most-m-2-nvme-drives-are-hot.2022991/

The ram and controller are way off level so unless you add the correct height thermal pads on the controller It's not even contacting it.
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Techpowerup found that the 980pro doesn't lose performance without any cooling. And its not a particularly hot drive (which is why it doesn't lose performance).

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/samsung-980-pro-1-tb-ssd/7.html
 
I just put my other 980 PRO 2TB into my Asus Zephry G14 2021 model, so will know quick if it gets warm :D
 
I would buy one if my motherboard could use more than one NVMe drive at full speed. I hope these drives are still around in the summer at similar prices. Should be fast enough, doubt I'd see a difference with a 990.
 
Flogger23m said:
I would buy one if my motherboard could use more than one NVMe drive at full speed. I hope these drives are still around in the summer at similar prices. Should be fast enough, doubt I'd see a difference with a 990.
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What's the issue with using just one fast drive?
 
BlueLineSwinger said:
This is not something I've seen before. Any articles/reviews/etc. you can link to? I'd like to read up on this as it could affect my next build.
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So the crap performance is around the cache and it not clearing it's self so after some usage the 980 essentially gets stuck with crap performance with right now the only solution being, do a secure erase or format the drive...post like this are all over Samsung's forums. Wonder if the 990 will have the same crap issue with the TLC/SLC method of "turbo cache"

Looks like WD NVMe's may be in my future. Samsung taking shortcuts and killing their performance with false claims of speeds.

Honestly, I would suggest people avoid these drives if they expect to see the rated speeds in actual usage at all...under windows or linux

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...low-write-speed-1100-mb-s/td-p/1562864/page/4
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/getting-slow-nvme-write-speeds.274572/
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1262379-samsung-980-pro-1tb-slow-write-speeds/
 
MrGuvernment said:
So the crap performance is around the cache and it not clearing it's self so after some usage the 980 essentially gets stuck with crap performance with right now the only solution being, do a secure erase or format the drive...post like this are all over Samsung's forums. Wonder if the 990 will have the same crap issue with the TLC/SLC method of "turbo cache"

Looks like WD NVMe's may be in my future. Samsung taking shortcuts and killing their performance with false claims of speeds.

Honestly, I would suggest people avoid these drives if they expect to see the rated speeds in actual usage at all...under windows or linux

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...low-write-speed-1100-mb-s/td-p/1562864/page/4
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/getting-slow-nvme-write-speeds.274572/
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1262379-samsung-980-pro-1tb-slow-write-speeds/
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So what does this affect write performance? How often is that a problem? When you are installing something?
 
Down to 174ish at Amazon. I followed the second and third link Mr Guverment provided about this write issue, and seems like a firmware out almost a year ago might have fixed it? (Firmware 5B2QGXA7).

I was tempted to get the heatsink version for 189, though that doesn't have 10% cash back for Amazon card holders like myself, just the usual 5%, and now with another 6ish buck drop for this one, the gap only widens hmm. This write talk might slow me down enough to come to my senses, I don't realllly need it. I paid more for my WD SN850 1TB when I built this rig, but now I feel cheap having such a small C drive with current pricing lol.
 
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MrGuvernment said:
So the crap performance is around the cache and it not clearing it's self so after some usage the 980 essentially gets stuck with crap performance with right now the only solution being, do a secure erase or format the drive...post like this are all over Samsung's forums. Wonder if the 990 will have the same crap issue with the TLC/SLC method of "turbo cache"

Looks like WD NVMe's may be in my future. Samsung taking shortcuts and killing their performance with false claims of speeds.

Honestly, I would suggest people avoid these drives if they expect to see the rated speeds in actual usage at all...under windows or linux

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...low-write-speed-1100-mb-s/td-p/1562864/page/4
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/getting-slow-nvme-write-speeds.274572/
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1262379-samsung-980-pro-1tb-slow-write-speeds/
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Thanks for the follow-up.

WD Blacks are usually good. SK Hynix also gets high marks in the reviews I've seen.
 
I ran crystaldiskmark in standard mode not "performance" mode what do my numbers mean? It's the 2tb version 980pro with 13% full
 

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xDiVolatilX said:
I ran crystaldiskmark in standard mode not "performance" mode what do my numbers mean? It's the 2tb version 980pro with 13% full
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Looks excellent to me.

Never seen the second row is higher than the first. Anyone know why?
 
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xDiVolatilX said:
I ran crystaldiskmark in standard mode not "performance" mode what do my numbers mean? It's the 2tb version 980pro with 13% full
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Numbers look good, the issue with the speed dropping and cache tends to come more with larger file moves over time, the SLC cache not flushing it's self out. the 2TB 980 Pro has 2GB of DDR4 cache, so any benchmarks below that will sit in the cache most of the time. other tools, like like linux DD or fio do better jobs of benchmarking drives for more detail.
 
MrGuvernment said:
Numbers look good, the issue with the speed dropping and cache tends to come more with larger file moves over time, the SLC cache not flushing it's self out. the 2TB 980 Pro has 2GB of DDR4 cache, so any benchmarks below that will sit in the cache most of the time. other tools, like like linux DD or fio do better jobs of benchmarking drives for more detail.
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So the potential slow down is when you are installing something larger than 2gb like a game for example? And only during installs? Also reading through the links you posted It's not clear when the drives could see this performance hit? Only over 2gb files like you say?
 
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