Nvidia 3050 Super, 3060 Super inbound?

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There is a leak of new 30 series midrange cards on the way. While the 40 series is just around the corner, it may be before we see affordable midrange options from the new architecture.

First up is an 8 GB 3060. Not only does it have less vram than the 3060, but it uses a 128 bit bus meaning it will likely be slower than the original. Let's hope Nvidia calls it a 3050 Super and not a 3060 8 GB or something deceptive.

Next is a "3060ti" that uses a 8 GB of GDDR6X on a 256 bit bus. This would likely be faster than a 3060ti depending on core count. Since ti is taken, they may still choose to call it a 3060 super.

Finally, in the Twitter leak, is a new 3070ti with the same memory configuration, but using GA102. Unknown core configuration so it could just be using leftover larger dies.

https://www.techpowerup.com/298765/nvidia-readies-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-and-rtx-3060-ti-g6x#comments

Of course price will determine if any of these products are good, but it may be a sign that Nvidia will be dragging their feet in releasing 40 series mid range products.
 
Is the RTX 3050 really a midrange video card, though? I mean, it's MSRP is $250 and that's pretty comfortably in the performance segment, above mid-range, at least based on historical standards where $200 demarks the top of the mid-range market. Also, the RTX 3050 uses an 8-pin power connector while most midrange cards use a 6-pin or no connector.

I would love to see NVidia release some Ray Tracing-capable video cards at the sub $200 price-point but I don't see that happening anytime soon unless NVidia announces an RTX 3030 or something. I don't know why it is the case that only performance and enthusiast cards have ray-tracing. I am sure that mid-range gaming could benefit from the lighting improvements that ray tracing affords as well.
 
I doubt they will make an RTX 3030. The 3050 is already on a 128 bit bus meaning that the 3030 would be even lower.

For bargain RTX, your best bet is a 2060. New ones can be found for close to $200 and 12 GB versions are under $250.
 
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Looking back at some reviews, the 2060 actually does better than the 3050 in rasterization, but falls short in RTX, partially to architecture and partially to the 6 GB vram
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-12-gb/33.html

If Nvidia were to build a true bargain RTX card, it would be based on a cut down tu116, something like a 1650 super with 128 bit bus and 8 GB vram. $175 would be fair given the old silicon.
 
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OKC Yeakey Trentadue said:
Looking back at some reviews, the 2060 actually does better than the 3050 in rasterization, but falls short in RTX, partially to architecture and partially to the 6 GB vram
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-12-gb/33.html

If Nvidia were to build a true bargain RTX card, it would be based on a cut down tu116, something like a 1650 super with 128 bit bus and 8 GB vram. $175 would be fair given the old silicon.
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TU116 does not support RTX features.
 
OKC Yeakey Trentadue said:
There is a leak of new 30 series midrange cards on the way. While the 40 series is just around the corner, it may be before we see affordable midrange options from the new architecture.

First up is an 8 GB 3060. Not only does it have less vram than the 3060, but it uses a 128 bit bus meaning it will likely be slower than the original. Let's hope Nvidia calls it a 3050 Super and not a 3060 8 GB or something deceptive.

Next is a "3060ti" that uses a 8 GB of GDDR6X on a 256 bit bus. This would likely be faster than a 3060ti depending on core count. Since ti is taken, they may still choose to call it a 3060 super.

Finally, in the Twitter leak, is a new 3070ti with the same memory configuration, but using GA102. Unknown core configuration so it could just be using leftover larger dies.

https://www.techpowerup.com/298765/nvidia-readies-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-and-rtx-3060-ti-g6x#comments

Of course price will determine if any of these products are good, but it may be a sign that Nvidia will be dragging their feet in releasing 40 series mid range products.
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they will extract the last cent from the rtx 3000,good tactic,as I announced, the midrange rtx 4000 can be forgotten, the focus will be only on the rtx 4090 and 4080
 
OKC Yeakey Trentadue said:
Nvidia being Nvidia. The bandwidth starved 3060 will indeed be called a 3060 as to rip off customers.

https://www.techpowerup.com/300248/...unch-geforce-rtx-3060-with-8gb-128-bit-memory

Wouldn't be surprised if this performs closer to the 3050 than the 3060.
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Milking rtx 3000,AMD does the same,the only thing is that used ones don't lose too much in price.If rtx 4070 and weaker come out, the prices will be high again.
But for 1080p I wouldn't recommend anything lower than the rtx 3060 to anyone.I have the cheapest and worst version of the rtx 3060 12gb with bad cooling and I'm not really satisfied with the performance in 1080p plus I had to undervolt it to get lower temperatures.
In NA, the prices are still good, but here the VAT is much higher plus the margins, so now the cheapest rtx 3060 12gb is around 440 euros.
Right now the cheapest rtx 4090 here is 2260 euros(inno3d X3 oc).
 
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This stinks to high heaven, Nvidia. Possible even worse than the 3GB 1060 deception. While there were "missing cores" with that SKU, most expected a performance loss given the small vram pool and reduced price. The performance reduction in this is likely less expected given how well the 3060ti and 3070 perform with 8 GB.

Average performance drop is 17%, though some games it is 30%+ and closer to the 3050 than the 3060. Amazing they launched this card with such a confusing name on the heels of the 4080 12/16 GB fiasco.

 
When testing the 3050, the 3060 12gb was 18%/22% faster at 1080p/1440p against the 2060 6gb.

When testing this card, the 3060 12gb was 17%/19% faster at 1080p/1440p against the 3060 8gb.

Simply put, the "new" 3060 is a 2060.
 
OKC Yeakey Trentadue said:
This stinks to high heaven, Nvidia. Possible even worse than the 3GB 1060 deception. While there were "missing cores" with that SKU, most expected a performance loss given the small vram pool and reduced price. The performance reduction in this is likely less expected given how well the 3060ti and 3070 perform with 8 GB.

Average performance drop is 17%, though some games it is 30%+ and closer to the 3050 than the 3060. Amazing they launched this card with such a confusing name on the heels of the 4080 12/16 GB fiasco.

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This is pretty much a repeat gtx 1030 ddr4. Sneaking in a gimped card with an almost identical name and identical price into the channel for the sole purpose of scamming unknowing buyers.
 
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