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You mean this one? A 1770W water chiller isn't going to fit into the new case, I'm afraid.Seems like Intel is readying a ginormous TR4-like socket for their 28-core CPU, so for the first time in a while we may not have a Mini ITX option for Intel's HEDT, which may revive interest in mATX for SFF.
You mean this one? The new case isn't going to fit a 1770W water chiller, I'm afraid.
As for the said case, it seems somewhat... overengineered. But it's too early to pass judgment, methinks. What concerns me right now is that 143mm limit.
W360 based the Mach One on one of my concepts. See this post for a longer explanation.Is this the result of the work first shown in this thread?
https://hardforum.com/threads/before-asking-ncase-about-micro-atx.1877777/
Alas. I wish there were any quality SFF(-ish) cases with support for larger tower coolers, like the NH-U12S (158mm) or the NH-U14S (165mm)...We are chatting with Noctua about 143mm and HEDT at Computex now.
The Noctua U9S can handle 140W, which is sufficient for i9-7900X.
For people using TR4 and higher wattage i9, water cooling is a better option than air cooling.
My question is do you really need to have the taller coolers.
In essence, how much fan noise / speed are you willing to put up with in exchange for SFF and portability.
From our conversation with Noctua at Computex:
1. they will advise us on how to cool a HEDT 160W CPU (i9-7920X most likely) using the Noctua U9S with two fans.
2. SFFLAB *might collaborate with Noctua on a Threadripper 2 tower air cooler for the Mach One.
If the fan speed are acceptable tradeoff for portability, why bother with the taller coolers right.
SFF is essentially a tradeoff, it just comes down to personal preference. Obviously, our goal is to post said data so people can decided for themselves.
Is it just me, or are these images confusing as hell?here are some diagrams we've drawn up to demonstrate the sorts of component choices that are possible in the MachOne, for each of the Gear One/Two/Three configurations!
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That's the thing: to me, personally, quietness is more important than portability.My question is do you really need to have the taller coolers.
In essence, how much fan noise / speed are you willing to put up with in exchange for SFF and portability.
I'm not really interested in the TR4 platform, but color me intrigued.SFFLAB *might collaborate with Noctua on a Threadripper 2 tower air cooler for the Mach One.
I see your point; I'm just not that much of an SFF disciple, I suppose. (A case slightly over 20L in volume wouldn't freak me out, for instance.)SFF is essentially a tradeoff, it just comes down to personal preference. Obviously, our goal is to post said data so people can decided for themselves.
SFFLAB should make a page with a 360° view of the case, methinks.Is it just me, or are these images confusing as hell?
That's the thing: to me, personally, quietness is more important than portability.
I see your point; I'm just not that much of an SFF disciple, I suppose. (A case slightly over 20L in volume wouldn't freak me out, for instance.)
SFFLAB should make a page with a 360° view of the case, methinks.
Additional MachOne renderings, including with a bare side panel!
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Rendered on the Mach One prototype machine using my laptop as external monitor
I understand, and I didn't mean to bash the Mach One. I think I just let my imagination run a bit too wild, when I saw the announcement of something resembling the legendary Necere grater.The philosophy behind the product is for the pro on the go. One of those requirement is flying, which effectively limits how big it can be. My goal is to create the best case I can at those limits.
Godspeed.Working on things.
This, with air cooling, would be perfect OTG machine.Additional MachOne renderings, including with a bare side panel!
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Rendered on the Mach One prototype machine using my laptop as external monitor
So, watched the above a bunch of times...
And I gotta say, that watercooling layout is AWESOME...
Love how the pump / rez combo & radiator are used to transverse the CPU & GPU chambers...
Definitely makes me rethink the 280 Phoenix AIO & consider a custom loop...
Right, I’m considering either a high core count tranportable render rig with this case, or just a hobby rig that allows me to switch up configurations for funFor mITX this isn't the most space-efficient design, but for mATX, it's about as small as you can get. I like it, 18.5L with windows and good airflow. Smallest TR build you can have probably.
Side view?To give a better idea on size:
horizontal comparison
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vertical comparison
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Side view?
Actual dimensions?
Hmm, you have a Space Grey MacBook Pro, a (sorta) Space Grey Keyboard... Space Grey Mach One incoming?Using my laptop as monitor for renderings.
Hmm, you have a Space Grey MacBook Pro, a (sorta) Space Grey Keyboard... Space Grey Mach One incoming?
Did I mention that I like Space Grey?
No. Really. There isn't. This is a two page thread with lots of info about component compatibility and layout options but the only dimension posted is a low-precision aggregate: the volume. You said that the volume was of its bounding box, but the thread author didn't. But I was not asking you for any info either, nor was I asking you to be snotty.Really...?!?
It is a two page thread at this point, and everything you ask for is within...
No. Really. There isn't. This is a two page thread with lots of info about component compatibility and layout options but the only dimension posted is a low-precision aggregate: the volume. You said that the volume was of its bounding box, but the thread author didn't. But I was not asking you for any info either, nor was I asking you to be snotty.
@wahaha360: I would like to see a side view comparison photo of the case next to other cases in its same class. If a photo had been taken at the same time as the others photos in your post at the top of this page, please post it!
Specifically, I would like to know how deep the case would sit on a desk.
The exterior dimensions (including feet, protrusions, etc.) are 170 x 286 x 380mm (W x D x H).
I'm so proud of you guys for having a suite and really professional marketing materials. Stepping up, ya'll should be getting attention from big boys from now on.
Side view?
Actual dimensions?
@wahaha360: I would like to see a side view comparison photo of the case next to other cases in its same class. If a photo had been taken at the same time as the others photos in your post at the top of this page, please post it!.
I'll be fashionably late.Hey man, it's been a while. We all moved to SFFN, so less active here, you should join the party.