Intel 10nm/7nm CPU/GPU Rumor Thread : Cannonlake, Icelake, Tigerlake, Sapphire Rapids, etc.

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MSI and ASRock are already adding BAR to Z-490.

ASRock calls it CAM for clever access memory, lol.
 

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Asus already pushed a bios update for Z490 that includes BAR. Or at least for the Strix Z490-e.
 

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Some juicy new rumors for RKL:
https://www.techpowerup.com/269667/intel-core-i7-rocket-lake-chips-to-be-8-core-12-thread

It looks like the i7 will be an 8/12 part. This seems necessary as the i9 maxes out at 8/16 and the i5 will be a 6/12 part as to compete with the next gen R5.
What's more is that i3 and below may be CML refresh. That raises a lot of questions on i/o. No leaks on core count, but if I were to wager a bet, the i3 would be a 6/6 part so as to compete with the next gen 4/8 R3. Pentiums and Celerons would most likely be lower clock/cache 4/8 and 4/4 parts.
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Looks like this slide had some legitimacy aside from the 8/12 in part.
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/r...lake-processors-gets-comet-lake-mixed-in.html

So yeah, 14nm Skylake... in 2021. We will see if AMD actually goes for the budget CPUs.
 

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CES 2021 Intel style.

RKL-S: Not much we didn't know. Lack of B-460 support for 11th gen? They can't be serious.

ICL-Xeon: A running joke on this thread. I will just quote Dr. Cutress "Today Intel is announcing that it has started production, although earlier in the year Intel said it was already ramping production, and other sources tell us that Intel has already launched the hardware, and is shipping to customers? It all got very confusing."

TGL-H: Promises of 8 core but only 4 core products listed.

ADL-S: Something somethings Alder Lake later 2021. You know, Intel's FIRST sub-14 nm desktop part.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1639...35w-tiger-at-45w-rocket-jasper-and-alder-lake
 

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Intel is still claiming Alder Lake in September 2021.
https://www.techpowerup.com/277657/intel-alder-lake-s-due-for-september-2021

It has a new socket featuring DDR5. If they actually believe that timeline, why even bother with 6 months of RKL.

Edit: Tiger Lake (mobile) and the much delayed Ice Lake server use the new 10nm Superfin. The chance of Alder Lake getting much of that high demand node is slim to none.
 
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/16535/intel-core-i7-11700k-review-blasting-off-with-rocket-lake

However, as noted in a number of press outlets, some units have already been sold at retail before that sales date. Units obtained by that method are not under NDA by definition, and we obtained the Core i7-11700K for this review at retail, and as such we are not under NDA for any information we have obtained through using this processor.

That was unfortunate...for Intel. I expected a better CPU honestly.
 

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Rofl what happened. Increased cache latency *and* more power consumption, oof.
 

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wasn't far off when I said the 700k would be slower than a 5800X in most applications and the 900k at 5.3ghz is needed to beat a 4.7-4.8ghz 5800x.

the 5900 family has no rival in even a core cruncher from team blue unless you go Xeon.

this is a bit like watching the 2500k destroy the 8350 all over again
 

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I was not expecting anything great from the 11700K. I was expecting it to barely beat the 5800x. Instead, it performs about the same as the 10700K it was supposed to replace in most applications. Now that ROG Maximus Hero XIII I bought back in early January seems like a terrible choice. Now, I feel like taking my computer outside and dropping it into the trash dumpster.
 
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/16535/intel-core-i7-11700k-review-blasting-off-with-rocket-lake

However, as noted in a number of press outlets, some units have already been sold at retail before that sales date. Units obtained by that method are not under NDA by definition, and we obtained the Core i7-11700K for this review at retail, and as such we are not under NDA for any information we have obtained through using this processor.

Yikes, now I am really curious about how the 8 core TGL-H parts will fair.

Its no wonder that Intel is dangling the Alder Lake carrot so early.
 

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Aside from pcie 4.0 the 10850k does as good or better than this cpu on pretty much every benchmark. The 11900k will not fair much better as it is going against the 5900x at that price. Perhaps the non-k models will make a better $/perf impression.
 

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Aside from pcie 4.0 the 10850k does as good or better than this cpu on pretty much every benchmark. The 11900k will not fair much better as it is going against the 5900x at that price. Perhaps the non-k models will make a better $/perf impression.
Also depends on what CPU you can actually get. If the 11900k is available at MSRP but the 5900x isn't, that also makes a difference.
 

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Also depends on what CPU you can actually get. If the 11900k is available at MSRP but the 5900x isn't, that also makes a difference.
Someone who wanted a 5900X (assuming they want those 12 cores) would never then consider the 11900k just because it's in stock.
 

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Someone who wanted a 5900X (assuming they want those 12 cores) would never then consider the 11900k just because it's in stock.
I'm just saying that the actually price of a 5900x is closer to $750 since that's the price you can go and buy one for without hoping to refresh fast enough somewhere.

11900k @ $550 vs a 5900x @ $750 is a different discussion changes the price/performance ratio considerably.
 

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I'm just saying that the actually price of a 5900x is closer to $750 since that's the price you can go and buy one for without hoping to refresh fast enough somewhere.

11900k @ $550 vs a 5900x @ $750 is a different discussion changes the price/performance ratio considerably.
Eh, I've had chances to get them at MC if I needed one. If someone is willing to save that much...why not get a 5800X then? If someone needs the multicore of a 5900X, they won't be considering an 11900k, because then you can just get a 5800X or any other intel octacore for way less.

Unless the 11900K is core for core significantly better than the 11700k so far, it'll be pointless except for someone wanting to flash the latest Intel.
 
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