SpaceCadet2000
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Buildzoid briefly mentions the power-on issue of the Master in his overview of B550 and X570 boards (at 32:20):
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Just be prepared that it will more than likely happen again.I just went through my system not powering on. 100% dead no power leds nothing. Power button on the case or board = nothing... I swapped power supplies Ram CPUs... then thought why not try powering off and pulling cmos battery... then try reseting bios... nothing
Try resetting bios and pulling cmos... bingo it verks!
Its only happened once to me so should I consider myself lucky?
Totally unrelated ....So I just stumbled on the XMP theory from an old 2015 post, someone was stuck in Gen 2 PCI-E as well.
I don't have XMP profiles, but managed to get my Z97 running without boot problems in Gen 3 PCI-E by simply overclocking memory speed to 2133 and upping voltage to 1.56v.
Interesting - that's exactly the same PSU I have.Another update. Swapping my PSU revived my rig, by that I mean that, so far, everything is functional and I can reboot/shutdown the PC and it will boot again. The weird thing is, the PSU of my rig actually works, every tests on it shows that it is functional and also if I can get it to boot my rig, there's no problem, it just seems that now, most of the time, it can't provide enough power on reboots or start ups for the CPU to load up.... My PSU is EVGA Supernova P2 850W so its fine since I have like 12 years warranty on it, so I'll just send it for RMA. My PSU from my 2nd rig (the one that works with the X570) is Corsair AX850 (Gold). Now my concern is, did the MOBO actually end up permanently damaging the PSU? Or my PSU died on its own and slowly caused the problem? My problems began when I did the BIOS update to F11 (like most ppl on this thread I think). So my question now is, do I just keep my current MOBO and use my other PSU while I send my main PSU for RMA or should I just change the MOBO since it might be at fault here and might also slowly kill the AX850?
Do you think they may have made more than one?Interesting - that's exactly the same PSU I have.
Two days before you asked, I had it and gave a heads up here.Has this bug ever happened to anyone recently.....say within the last month?
No, when it fails to boot, the motherboard acts like it's dead. There are no lights, fans don't spin, clearing cmos doesn't help. I had the same issue on an x370 with a gen1 ryzen, so incompatible bios was not a possibility in my case.One possible explanation that I don't remember being explored: has anyone confirmed that this isn't just a case of the dual BIOS motherboards unexpectedly switching to the second BIOS and not booting because of that?
Some reasons as to why it might not boot on a second BIOS:
- BIOS version too old (doesn't support the CPU?)
- different memory settings
Another curiosity I have (because I'm returning the B550 Auros Pro AC and got a MSI B550 Gaming Carbon instead I'm not directly impacted anymore) is if the q-flash process is still functional when your motherboard gets into that state and if it helps?
Except in order for the system to figure out that the BIOS is too old for the CPU or the memory settings are different/wrong, the system would need to turn on. The system isn't powering on is the problem, so it's deeper down than the BIOS. The problem lies at a more basic level than the BIOS. It's a problem in the circuitry/firmware that controls the power button and power control for the MB when on standby power. It's corrupting itself to the point that a CMOS battery removal is required to reset things, until next time.One possible explanation that I don't remember being explored: has anyone confirmed that this isn't just a case of the dual BIOS motherboards unexpectedly switching to the second BIOS and not booting because of that?
Some reasons as to why it might not boot on a second BIOS:
- BIOS version too old (doesn't support the CPU?)
- different memory settings
Another curiosity I have (because I'm returning the B550 Auros Pro AC and got a MSI B550 Gaming Carbon instead I'm not directly impacted anymore) is if the q-flash process is still functional when your motherboard gets into that state and if it helps?
Well it seems to be a recurring "feature" on Gigabyte boards. What could cause it, maybe it's indirectly related to it aswell?Totally unrelated ....
It's a bit more complicated than that in my experience. Well before I stopped having problems last Jan.Except in order for the system to figure out that the BIOS is too old for the CPU or the memory settings are different/wrong, the system would need to turn on. The system isn't powering on is the problem, so it's deeper down than the BIOS. The problem lies at a more basic level than the BIOS. It's a problem in the circuitry/firmware that controls the power button and power control for the MB when on standby power. It's corrupting itself to the point that a CMOS battery removal is required to reset things, until next time.
Can confirm, similar with my x370. Once I got my memory dialed in I didn't have too many issues, but it did still recurr. I lamented the lack of a physical switch and the forced use of a soft bios fallback for this reason (troubleshooting, in general) and others. GB felt the need to cut it from their gaming k5 board (5, 7, and k7 had it though, iirc). Had to abuse the power/reset buttons and cmos jumper if I wanted it to switch. A pain in the ass.It's a bit more complicated than that in my experience. Well before I stopped having problems last Jan.
1. Where randomly it doesn't post, it acts like it's dead
2. Where all the sudden it goes through a memory timing reboot for ever, then on the next reboot it acts like it's dead
3. Where it goes to old bios, then goes through a memory timing reboot, then it's dead
4. Where it fails to shut down in some random way (power, etc) and then acts like it's dead
I am still on F31l, my system is stable but the bios isn’t, yesterday out of the blue the bios has reset itself to default.....FYI, there is a new BIOS update on Gigabyte's website. One of the things it addresses is system stability. Perhaps this is the fix we are all waiting for? I downloaded it and updated. We shall see!
same here. ive got problems even with updating via Bios, to be honest: with restarting after update. restart took hours, seriosly. update under bios from usb works better (to f31q), but i test it only once, so it doesnt prove anything.I am still on F31l, my system is stable but the bios isn’t, yesterday out of the blue the bios has reset itself to default.....
I doubt it. This is a hardware issue. Since it doesn't effect all boards there is a defect somewhere causing this. Might of just been a bad batch?FYI, there is a new BIOS update on Gigabyte's website. One of the things it addresses is system stability. Perhaps this is the fix we are all waiting for? I downloaded it and updated. We shall see!
It is not just with the master other AMD gigabyte boards had the issue pop up. It is just far more common with the master. Which leads me to believe some part they sourced for the board must of been a defective batch.Another soul glad that could find this thread!
I just finished the ordeal of building everything back together after putting it apart, checking PSU voltages and what not... until I was pointed to the CMOS battery as a possible culprit (I know, it is not the battery itself... I also checked it and it was fully loaded...)
My MOBO is an X570 Aorus pro rev 1.0 (no wifi). I had the exact same symptoms most people are reporting: after 18 months of perfect performance, no system changes and without a previous sign... PC wouldnt boot. After closer examination, mobo does not seem to be getting power at all... you know the rest of the story, as a last resource I took the CMOS battery out for about 5 min and, voilà, the system started booting again. It has been working again normally since yesterday.
I really do not think that the problem is only related to the Master, but I have signed the petition anyway...
Is there a possibility to do a wiki with the info of this thread as a first comment in the thread? I think it would be of great help for new comers.
My system specs are:
Ryzen 5 3600
X570 Aorus Pro rev 1.0
2x16 GB Ram Crucial ballistic xsport
RTX 2060 6 GB MSI Ventus
Cooler Master H500M (case)
Asus rog PG279Q (monitor)
Anyway, I hope it takes another 18 months...
My B550 Aorus Pro(v1) is working perfectly, BIOS is F10.Same issue with a x570 Aorus Master. Also, my B550 Aorus Pro is experiencing another weird power related issue. If I apply load (gpu / cpu) and then shut off normally through Windows and then turn the PC on 5 secs later, POST fails with CPU / DRAM lights going back and forth. If no load is apply to the PSU and I power off and power on, no POST issues. Regular windows restarts have zero issues. Now, I am not sure id this is a PSU or mobo issue but having power related issues with my X570 is not giving me a lot of trust in the mobo. This issue in particular is not well known because most people do not power off and power on after big loads.
Hmm, I'd rather get my bios from gigabyte's site than from a rando's mediafire account ...F31 was just released on 12/31/2020, and can be found here atm:
https://www.tweaktownforum.com/foru...dors/gigabyte/28656-gigabyte-latest-beta-bios
Still very happy with my x570 Aorus Master! Hope everyone can solve whatever is ailing their boards!
And 31q is back onlineHmm, I'd rather get my bios from gigabyte's site than from a rando's mediafire account ...
Speaking of which, gigabyte seems to have pulled the F31q beta today. F30 is now the most recent bios listed.
I noticed it's the same download link, so yeah.Are the BIOSes the same for Rev. 1.0 MBs and Rev. 1.1/1.2 boards?
To be clear, this thread is mainly for the Aorus X570 Master ATX board.I reserved a discounted x570 master last night that should be the newest revision (and should also be unopened) but I think this thread along with other posts, videos, etc have scared me away from trying it. I also have an x570 Aorus ITX board that has been in my girlfriends SFF machine for a few weeks which I'll be returning due to this. I hadn't seen many reports of issues with the itx version until I read this thread and the last thing I want to do is have to troubleshoot her setup (especially with such limited space) randomly when she just wants to hop into a game. My Aorus B550i has been solid for a few months now. Real bummer as I've gotten used to the Gigabyte bios layout and have gotten some of the best performance I've seen in the B550/X570 boards with these three Gigabyte models.