Epic Games Sues Apple

Ididar

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Exactly, Steam improved constantly, added more features, set the standard of a good online game distributor. API's, hooks, customer service, forums, support for Linux, really key player in VR and even supported Macs somewhat. EPIC I don't see bringing anything new to the table or even a good table to eat from.
See, I find Steam's store front to be a big steaming pile of shit. Finding games I want to play usually involves digging through a pile of crap I don't want to maybe find the few that I do. Everything for them exists in a big ass bucket and filtering is done by whatever tags someone applies to the game. If people want their game to be seen they tag it with everything they think is even remotely applicable. This means that unless you know the name of the specific game you're doomed to go scrolling through buckets of crap. If they could quickly allow me to separate random cheap indie games from AAA games I'd be more than happy but the interface makes that not the easiest thing in the world.

Now, that doesn't mean I find anyone else's alternative particularly fantastic either but I simply object to the concept that Steam is somehow doing it right. Definitely not.
 

noko

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See, I find Steam's store front to be a big steaming pile of shit. Finding games I want to play usually involves digging through a pile of crap I don't want to maybe find the few that I do. Everything for them exists in a big ass bucket and filtering is done by whatever tags someone applies to the game. If people want their game to be seen they tag it with everything they think is even remotely applicable. This means that unless you know the name of the specific game you're doomed to go scrolling through buckets of crap. If they could quickly allow me to separate random cheap indie games from AAA games I'd be more than happy but the interface makes that not the easiest thing in the world.

Now, that doesn't mean I find anyone else's alternative particularly fantastic either but I simply object to the concept that Steam is somehow doing it right. Definitely not.
Do not follow your logic, you want less games to go through? Steam to automatically know what you like? I have no problems separating games out using tags, like VR, Top Sellers, New Releases, read ratings, publishers etc. do that with EPYC. Well you can also give them your mastermind winning feedback how to do it. Steam is about the only store I don't have too much problems with but that is just me.
 

cybereality

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Well, Steam's "related games" algorithm is pretty bad. I find a lot of good books on Amazon through the related feature. On Steam it seems mostly random.

The "what to try next" does seems to work, and uses a newer algorithm, so that is great. But it only seems to apply to games you own.

In any case, Steam is not perfect, but it's the best we have right now.
 

Ididar

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Do not follow your logic, you want less games to go through? Steam to automatically know what you like? I have no problems separating games out using tags, like VR, Top Sellers, New Releases, read ratings, publishers etc. do that with EPYC. Well you can also give them your mastermind winning feedback how to do it. Steam is about the only store I don't have too much problems with but that is just me.

Steam wants users to browse past as many games as possible hoping that browsing turns into sales. They hope that eyes on goods turns into sales. Steam's goal isn't to make it stupid easy for me to find the specific type of game I'm looking for it is to get maximum eyes on maximum numbers of games hoping for sales. As long as there isn't a bigger/better store out there with better algorithms they'll keep that approach going. I found Steam better to use as a store years ago before their catalog grew to such large proportions. When you have large amounts of data and you need to search it then algorithms are key to making that work. Steam's game catalog can be considered a big chunk of data. As long as their search methodology returns lots of junk results it isn't really doing its job overly well.

How do I find new games coming out? I generally hit up Google, not Steam. Do a search for an article that lists off some upcoming games and look at the information there. Then I actually have a name of a game to search for on Steam, and other platforms. Finding those games on Steam on their own means scrolling past tons of trash.
 
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