Anyone owns the APC Smart UPS X 1000 VA by chance?

https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/S...515r-nema-smartconnect-port-extended-runtime/

I need to know if the rear fan is constantly on, or does it turn on ONLY when it's running on battery power?

also, is there any other brand, just as good as or better than this rackmount model?

I can't speak to your particular model, but I have had a lot of good experiences with Tripplite UPS units, and they also tend to be a lot cheaper than comparable APC models. I will say the optional software for the Tripplite works well enough, but it can be a pain in the ass to locate and do the initial set up on the correct version for your specific unit.
 
Actually I believe I do have the unit which you seek info on. I don't think the rear fan runs all the time, should only kick on when on battery power.

However, due to space around my "rack", it's a bit of a pita to get at the backside to verify for 100% certainty.

Edit: I've had good luck with this rack model. Scored it for free from work a little over a year ago when they upgraded equipment and thought this unit was dead. Turns out it was a bad set of batteries in the optional expansion module. Disconnected expansion module and she works like a charm.

As for other brands, I've got a few Cyber Power units kicking around the house ranging from a 1350 unit on my main rig to a lowly little 500? 800? unit in the bedroom for the wifi AP and a few other little things. Also have another unit in our extra bedroom hooked up to an iMac.

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thanks for the info on the X series, very useful.

no, I think Cyber Power is a best buy brand. They are bad news. What happens is, they make sure their battery is irregular setup, so the 3rd party people can't sell clone battery. So you end up buying from Cyber Power only on battery replacement and they suck you dry on the cost. By contrast, take the above APC, an OEM battery 1/2 price of APC, and they work fine for me for many, many yr.

P.S. is there anything you are not happy w/ the APC X series?
 
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I bought it. I called APC, they confirm the fan only turns on when it's hot or on battery power. But not on all the time. That's the same as my current APC. Since this is rack mount, I am about to save 1 ft. x 48" of desk space. Thanks for your help

I hope 800W real power is enough to handle all the video card requirement in the upcoming years. Currently I'm not playing any video game, but I plan to
 
thanks for the info on the X series, very useful.

no, I think Cyber Power is a best buy brand. They are bad news. What happens is, they make sure their battery is irregular setup, so the 3rd party people can't sell clone battery. So you end up buying from Cyber Power only on battery replacement and they suck you dry on the cost. By contrast, take the above APC, an OEM battery 1/2 price of APC, and they work fine for me for many, many yr.

P.S. is there anything you are not happy w/ the APC X series?
Not sure if Cyber Power is a Best Buy brand or not but can confirm (at least in my experience) their battery setup is normal so when the time comes, I can head to Amazon and order the correct batteries without having to go through Cyber Power.
 
I have some bad experience w/ unfamiliar brand. A few yr. ago, I called this brand technical support called Minute man UPS

https://minutemanups.com/
their technical support staff lies to me. I ask him specifically if the fan is constantly on, he said no. I bought it. Turn out the fan is constantly on, and this UPS industry still refuse to use fluid bearing fan

so w/ another brand like Eaton, which is a very good brand name, I agree w/ you, I don't want to take the chance anymore
 
Not sure if Cyber Power is a Best Buy brand or not but can confirm (at least in my experience) their battery setup is normal so when the time comes, I can head to Amazon and order the correct batteries without having to go through Cyber Power.
but who is cyber power? did it come out of a rock? Where's the R&D? I have seen this brand in the past 5+ yr., but as a UPS co., they need decades of R&D, is this nothing but an OEM brand, or is it a real brand w/ a long history of R&D. This brand strike me as a snake salesman style brand name

anyhoo, I have to admit their rack mount is at 1U whereas the one you & I own is 2U, so that's impressive.

Have you actually able to buy a 3rd party generic OEM batteries from any local batteries shop, i.e., a compatible battery and is able to plug it in and get it to work?
 
but who is cyber power? did it come out of a rock? Where's the R&D? I have seen this brand in the past 5+ yr., but as a UPS co., they need decades of R&D, is this nothing but an OEM brand, or is it a real brand w/ a long history of R&D. This brand strike me as a snake salesman style brand name

anyhoo, I have to admit their rack mount is at 1U whereas the one you & I own is 2U, so that's impressive.

Have you actually able to buy a 3rd party generic OEM batteries from any local batteries shop, i.e., a compatible battery and is able to plug it in and get it to work?
This is the Cyber Power unit that has been powering my gaming PC that I purchased (wow) December of 2016. Currently still running on the batteries it came with and working fine.

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pfc-sinewave/cp1350pfclcd/

If I had to replace the batteries, I'd look at something like this which should just be standard UPS batteries (maybe not that specific one but the point still stands, nothing proprietary or special about the batteries used):

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Battery-CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-12V/dp/B00G5ENHZ0

Edit: While not a super old company, it certainly isn't new, either coming up on 26 years in business.

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I remember 1 reason I never go w/ Cyberpower is the switching time from 0 power to battery power is slow.

Tripp Lite has been around for even longer, but their products also doesn't cut it. Do a search on the review of their products. Most likely due to a lack of good R&D
 
I have some bad experience w/ unfamiliar brand. A few yr. ago, I called this brand technical support called Minute man UPS

https://minutemanups.com/
their technical support staff lies to me. I ask him specifically if the fan is constantly on, he said no. I bought it. Turn out the fan is constantly on, and this UPS industry still refuse to use fluid bearing fan

so w/ another brand like Eaton, which is a very good brand name, I agree w/ you, I don't want to take the chance anymore
Bottom line all batteries conk out regardless of brand.
 
https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/S...515r-nema-smartconnect-port-extended-runtime/

I need to know if the rear fan is constantly on, or does it turn on ONLY when it's running on battery power?

also, is there any other brand, just as good as or better than this rackmount model?
For APC the "RT" / Online aka real-time is the online/double-conversion model line. Anything else besides their super huge ones are line-interactive.

Eaton / Vertiv (liebert) are the other 2 "trusty" ones usually.
 
APC Power factor on the one I bought and the C model is a power factor of 0.8, and 0.9 respectively, that's as good as it can get

the older model is a power factor of 0.6, say 1500VA, you'll get 900W or so

So that's good enough for me

But my no. 1 concern is this is used in a house, my PC is fluid bearing fan, so I need co. such as Eaton to use fluid bearing as I don't know if their fan is on constantly or not, and none of these manufacturer said that on / or not constantly on at their fact sheet
 
So as an update, the RM unit is in fact silence. The fan did turn on for 30 min., but it stopped afterwards. The unit is 100% quiet, I'm very happy w/ the purchase. Very impressive.

Now I have a related question, being too lazy to start a new topic, I want to undo the muting of the alarm of this Dell UPS, which is really a Smart UPS 1500VA. Back then, I use the RS232 port. Today, I use the USB port and don't know what to select as it doesn't recognize the UPS

https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/DLA1500/dell-smartups-1500va-usb-120v/

the problem is, I don't remember what audible alarm I disable back then. But according to this, it says I CANNOT disable the battery alarm, which is all that I care about. As long as there is an alarm on the battery, I'm good.

But then what DID I mute then? what does it mute if someone were to turn on mute on the UPS?

https://www.se.com/us/en/faqs/FA284138/
 
This is the Cyber Power unit that has been powering my gaming PC that I purchased (wow) December of 2016. Currently still running on the batteries it came with and working fine.

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pfc-sinewave/cp1350pfclcd/

If I had to replace the batteries, I'd look at something like this which should just be standard UPS batteries (maybe not that specific one but the point still stands, nothing proprietary or special about the batteries used):

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Battery-CyberPower-CP1500PFCLCD-12V/dp/B00G5ENHZ0

Edit: While not a super old company, it certainly isn't new, either coming up on 26 years in business.

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I am taking a 2nd look at Cyberpower. The one you mentioned above, that you're using, has a horrible power factor of 0.6

I also went to their website, the 1U power factor is very poor, 0.6 or some low output unit like only 600W. The 2U has good power factor, but for me to switch, if they have 2U and APC have 2U, I stick w/ APC. CyberPower only gain is their 1U, and I can't find any 1U at APC.
 
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update on this APC:

it says on the display: Load 32W when my PC is turn off. So my cordless phone, my Cable modem, my router, and the idle electricity of my PC, adds up to 32W

But when I turn my PC on, it says Load 80W to 96W range. That's without the LED monitor on.

But that would mean my PC only use 48W to 64W of electricity only?

when I turn on my 43" LED monitor, it jumps to 132W to 160W

so the monitor only use 70w of electricity

these no. can't be right, because according to this, just my video card sucks up 150W of electricity

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/graphics-card-power-consumption-tested

Who's right? because when I spec. out this UPS, I type in something like "actual electricity video card use" or something like that, and some "genius" website said a good video card sucks up 600W of whoppy electricity. THat's why I bought the 1000VA unit. But now I only running at 160W

Genius website:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/the-nvidia-rtx-4060s-power-efficiency-is-raising-eyebrows/



And while I'm doing these electricity saving calculation, I went to 3 totally different LED light bulb savings calculator website (slightly off topic)

https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/energy/led-savings-calculator.php

https://www.bulbs.com/learning/energycalc.aspx

https://www.regencylighting.com/lighting-resources/energy-savings-calculator/

For a room that was using 92W of electricity, 6 hr. every 2 days, and now switch down to 17W of electricity, these 3 websites say I only save $9 to $22 per year of my utility bill, so about $0.77 to $2 per mth., eventhough I cut 75W of wattage. Is that all I save from those LED energy saving light bulbs?
 
update on this APC:

it says on the display: Load 32W when my PC is turn off. So my cordless phone, my Cable modem, my router, and the idle electricity of my PC, adds up to 32W

But when I turn my PC on, it says Load 80W to 96W range. That's without the LED monitor on.

But that would mean my PC only use 48W to 64W of electricity only?

when I turn on my 43" LED monitor, it jumps to 132W to 160W

so the monitor only use 70w of electricity

these no. can't be right, because according to this, just my video card sucks up 150W of electricity

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/graphics-card-power-consumption-tested

Who's right? because when I spec. out this UPS, I type in something like "actual electricity video card use" or something like that, and some "genius" website said a good video card sucks up 600W of whoppy electricity. THat's why I bought the 1000VA unit. But now I only running at 160W

Genius website:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/the-nvidia-rtx-4060s-power-efficiency-is-raising-eyebrows/



And while I'm doing these electricity saving calculation, I went to 3 totally different LED light bulb savings calculator website (slightly off topic)

https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/energy/led-savings-calculator.php

https://www.bulbs.com/learning/energycalc.aspx

https://www.regencylighting.com/lighting-resources/energy-savings-calculator/

For a room that was using 92W of electricity, 6 hr. every 2 days, and now switch down to 17W of electricity, these 3 websites say I only save $9 to $22 per year of my utility bill, so about $0.77 to $2 per mth., eventhough I cut 75W of wattage. Is that all I save from those LED energy saving light bulbs?

Regarding PC power draw on the UPS... it's all fun and games until you run a game and suddenly the power draw off the GPU spikes hard enough to trip the unit.

I had a 900VA unit connected to my 5950X and 6800XT system and video encodes and games of Smite were just fine with it - even at the same time, but just getting to the main menu in Othercide spiked it so hard it would trip the unit every time. I had to get a 1500VA unit to properly cover that.


(The 900VA unit was the biggest thing they had in Best Buy at the time, and I bought it as more of a power filter because when the wind picks up from a severe storm, the power lines at the poles across from my house arc causing severe brownouts... and no, Virginia Dominion Power refuses to come out and fix that).
 
did you bother find out the actual power requirement of your video card?

also, what's your make and model? as 900VA means nothing. It all depends on the power factor. The earlier model , their power factor is 0.6. The current model, their power factor is 0.8 to 0.9
 
did you bother find out the actual power requirement of your video card?

also, what's your make and model? as 900VA means nothing. It all depends on the power factor. The earlier model , their power factor is 0.6. The current model, their power factor is 0.8 to 0.9

Old unit is an APC Back-UPS 900VA BVN900M1 and I realized it's rating was low for my machine - hence the explanation. It was the biggest thing in stock at my local Best Buy at the time and I ran out and bought it because a major storm was expected to roll into the area that night. The purpose of it was to make sure my computer did not get destroyed. The new unit is a Tripp-Lite 1500VA unit I got off eBay with new batteries, and it is working great.
 
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