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    Ubuntu Linux Evaluating x86-64-v3 Based Build - AVX & Newer Intel/AMD CPUs

    Nothing more to add except hearing "RISC is the future" in a CPU Architecture course I took in grad school ... in 1991.
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    Hot 5800X3D $279.99 Microcenter

    For what I cared about, Haswell wasn't going to do squat coming from a 3570K capable of 4.9G all core. I was doubt full about anything Intel given what I know about TANE. Figured a change of architecture may make a difference and tried a 5800X and mobo from MC figuring that if I didn't get...
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    Hot 5800X3D $279.99 Microcenter

    https://www.microcenter.com/product/647926/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-vermeer-34ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor-cooler-not-included Haven't upgraded in quite a while, coming from a 4.9GHz Ivy, but damn! 5800X3D is a very nice upgrade. The 5800X is also a decent upgrade, but I returned it and got the...
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    [Mostly Dead] EVGA B-Stock strikes again

    Oh I'm not. I'm running them in SLI which means they are about 3080TI/3090 performance level. Even managed to undervolt them just a bit to save some power while still boosting to 1800. What I'm doing is not mainstream, but it works for me and I don't care one iota about RT. These were...
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    [Mostly Dead] EVGA B-Stock strikes again

    I've got two long term b-stock EVGA cards, a GTX 980 (2016) and a GTX 1070 TI (2019). Both still work fine. I got the 1070 TI for a steal, because it was given to me in exchange for a 980 TI b-stock that went bad during the first 30 days that I paid $199 for. 1070 TIs at the time were going...
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    Need some help diagnosing an issue

    Put a voltmeter on the 12V supply when this happens. If the 12V goes out even a bit and comes back on, the power supply tripped. Technically if the power supply trips, it should stay off, but some mother boards will tickle the P_ON of the supply and turn it back on and make it look like a...
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    Is a used GT 710 from eBay a bad idea? Just need a cheap GPU to perform data recovery on a system whose iGPU is not working.

    That is just sad. Before the recent craziness, GT710s were offered on EVGA B-stock for $15 shipped on some Wednesdays. Modern integrated graphics probably output performs the genuine cards even for HTPC. Perhaps the scammers are short on fake cards as well in this market. One dead giveaway...
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    Is a used GT 710 from eBay a bad idea? Just need a cheap GPU to perform data recovery on a system whose iGPU is not working.

    The generic drivers in windows will work with these cards, so as a utility card to just get a display to service a PC, the GT710/720/730 are fine. They also work well with real Nvidia drivers. I have several ebay sourced $20-$30 GT720s that I use for MythTV frontends. The GT710/720 are great...
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    Anybody here still have a Abit board?

    My IP35 was my last and least favorite Abit board - I didn't care for that double boot stuff either although the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P that replaced it kind of did the same thing. IIRC, that was a new thing with Conroe. I've certainly had worse boards. That said, I really miss Abit. Had some...
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    Fry's Electronics permanently closing Feb 24, 2021

    I had nearly the same thing happen with my fridge. Only difference is the con worked because even with the warranty, they beat everybody else out on price. I recall thinking how can this business make money this way -- a few years later they were gone. A funnier story is I bought a display...
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    Fry's Electronics permanently closing Feb 24, 2021

    FIFY. (sorry, couldn't resist) The first time I went into a Fry's there was a big banner "Welcome Technical Professionals". When I announced to the team I currently work for that Fry's bit the dust, my boss, a leader of over a dozen technical professionals and sharp engineer in his own right...
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    Nvidia 1070 ti

    Ha! Obviously I didn't read through the thread. Here is to the bottoming out of the current crypto boom with a hard landing - makes for a great buyer's market for video cards.
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    Nvidia 1070 ti

    Just curious what you base this on. Asking because when I was just replying I was preparing to say 1070TI's were going for $500, because when I looked last week, that seemed to be representative of the closing prices on Evilbay. However, when I double checked, I found decent cards from decent...
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    Nvidia 1070 ti

    Holy smokes, you ain't kidding. I have a lonely 980 for a racing sim and was thinking of picking up a second, I mean, how much can a 980 non-TI go for? The answer appears to be nearly $200 (I was anticipating less than $100) . 1070TI's are going for stupid money (casual look at Evilbay...
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    Bill English, co-inventor of the computer mouse, dies at 91

    Don't forget Justin Bieber...
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    F1 2018 (Humble Store)- expires in 3 days

    I had to try this several times before it worked. Got a support email advising to try this - you have to do it before the offer expires - only a couple hours left. If it works, you get the steam key immediately. If you only get something like it will be mailed to you blah blah blah, try again.
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    As an information point, in the past when trying to improve the performance in this section of the map, the only thing that helped was taking a couple locomotives and about 40% of the length of each train. Trimming back the buildings, removing cars, removing the windmills, taking out 1/2 the...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    I really don't think FRAPS or Frameview matters as long as Frameview can collect data over time, which I'm pretty sure it does. Frameview is likely better as FRAPS data is pretty limited. -Mike
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Looks like it works just fine to me. ETA: In context that was kind of snotty, sorry. NVidia FrameView does not work, as in will not run on my Win7 system w/o the Win7 telemetry update, so that's a no go for me. If you collect FrameView data over time, you will very likely get plots very much...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    We will just have to agree to disagree on that. The chart shows I can predict a measure of frame rate performance from a 3.8G machine of a 4.7G machine without any data from the 4.7G machine except a SPI32 score. And I've been doing it all the way through this thread with the exception of...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Captured with FRAPS starting as soon as session finishes loading and stopping after 390 seconds. This is TS12 Bench 2 49922. Start the bench, start FRAPS, let it finish on its own. Unrestricted frame rate, 1080P low video settings, games settings same as TS12 Bench 1. 2600K 9-9-9-27 DDR3-1866...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Ok, let's try this for a dynamic scenario: 1) Download the attached .zip and extract to a convenient directory. 2) In that zip there is a .cdp file. 3) Start TS12 4) At the game splash menu, click Content 5) At the Planet Auran popup click cancel. Also cancel this anytime it pops up - it's...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    ETA: This will not work for 49922. I removed the attachment. I'm going to try building the benches in 49922 as going up in build numbers generally works. Ok, let's try this for a dynamic scenarios: 1) Download the attached .zip and extract to a convenient directory. 2) In that zip are two...
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    Logitech G600 MMO mouse - $22.99 @ Amazon/Newegg and others.

    In for one, not for MMO, but CAD work. Wish they made a trackball version. -Mike
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    That's what I was afraid of. Ok, plan B. Ironically, I could install 49922 but then the Steam people would be out in the cold. Using a CDP file should work with any version. Stand by. -Mike
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Ok, lets try this, download TS12Bench2Sesssion-Bench2.zip from my google drive: Unzip it to a temporary directory. You should get a directory named TS12Bench2Session-Bench2. Inside that directory will be a bunch of .save files. Move the TS12Bench2Session-Bench2 directory to...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    I think this is going to have to be shared as a .CDP as the saved sessions are pretty much binary blobs (I think) and I've never been able to run them on different versions. A little more work, but should be still doable. The nice thing is the .CDP file will be small and can be hosted here...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    The static scene test was just to see if we could correlate with the simplest test possible. One of the other things NV3Games did is they released service packs for TS12 and each made the game worse. The last "good" one was build 49922 and is the one I have experience with. The steam version...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Frankly the AMD 3.0G number is more for my curiosity and doesn't matter a whole lot now. The bang for the buck on the 3600/3600x is very tempting. For about $350 for CPU/Mobo/RAM it's heck of a deal considering 2600Ks new were about $300 just for the CPU. Is it correct to assume the better...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    WRT to SPI, the data says there is something here, but feel free to leave it be. From the tone of your posts I get the impression you are intrigued as to why this code runs the way it does. I've been for a very long time. There are places on the map where it drops like a stone and begs the...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    I skipped SBE because of reasons -- I think those reasons were the memory controller and SPI scores, but it was so long ago that I don't remember. I do remember the disappointment reading the [H]ardOCP SBE review. Is it fair to compare SBE to 10980XE in terms of arch reasons for the...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Dan, thanks for that. In looking back, it looks like a miscopied a number from my spreadsheet, as my SPI score is 431, not 411. To be sure I re-ran the tests: 2600K 4.7G DDR-1866 9-9-9-27 No G-Sync: 32M SPI: 431s TS12 Bench1: 33 via AB OSD dips to 32 about once ever 10-15 seconds. So...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    1) Dan, you are correct, I confused it with the missing second Ryzen datapoint. Updating the apples to apples comparable data to account for this: 2600k 24 32M SPI 411.077s. TS12 - 32FPS (Average - Eyeball - Train Stationary) 9900k(1) 24 32M SPI 424.57s. TS12 - 30-31FPS (Average - Eyeball -...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    If you go back to the original post, no specific game was mentioned and the claim was narrowly focused. I only brought TS12 because I was asked and it was also so cheap. Frankly, it wasn't my intention to go into this level of detail here, but there are interesting parts to it and I really do...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Dan's points were all over the map, and I was trying to address them without confusion. I agree it did not work well. Will be sticking to the data. -Mike
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    What data points don't support it? Also, please don't quote me out of context. The whole quote, which you mischaracterized, is -Mike
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Won't matter if you blink. If you are wrong in your attempted settings when you go to really run the program there will be hitches in the motion. The game isn't complex, it's just tedious and time consuming to tweak, determine compromises, and look at almost non-existent HW upgrades. In...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    A benchmark of science is *repeatable* results. In my data, FRAPS/AB OSD FPS results are repeatable. It won't pick fine details out, but, again, it is repeatable. Thinking you are an expert in a game you have never seen before comes across as arrogant. You missed all the in-game options...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    This is because you don't fully understand the way this particular game behaves and how to tune it. The FPS averages plus CPU plus GPU tuning have enabled me to get this game butter smooth, at its best settings for a particular CPU, GPU, and content. The problem I have is these best settings...
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    Riddle me this: Better IPC?

    Ok, that may explain it. Don't move the train. Just let the session open and have it just sit there. Here are the instructions, note #14: https://hardforum.com/threads/riddle-me-this-better-ipc.1989445/page-2#post-1044416618 I've never actually used the Steam version of TS12 before, and...
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