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Yep, the razor (scalpel) worked fine, but it's a dangerous step since one slip can mean buying a new CPU. All the other steps are 100% safe. I'm tempted just to see how much better the delidded watercooling is but nooo, no watercooling on this one. Keeping it simple! I'm away from it ~6...

Sure, if it's not too much trouble for me to get it done. PC Mark is supposed to run productivity apps and trace how long things take. I tried it but it's junk -- after it checks system info, it stops and says "no result was provided". Maybe there are better real world benchmarks? Here's Real...

That's an awesome build, thanks for pointing it out! It is super cool. I'm a sucker for comparing everything to the latest tech, then it feels like I'm missing out if I use older tech. I think the timing will align better on my next build in mid-2023, when Epyc is available. I just need to...

This is dope, thanks for sharing! I recently set out to do a ridiculous build over here. Mine Zen 4 stuff is cool and I've been dorking with Optane in RAID 0, but your dual CPUs and GPUs and tons of RAM and storage are really over the top. Kudos! How do you get 10.4Gb/s read on the Sabrent...

Here's the previous with RAID 0 added: I think the writes are basically just measuring the FireCuda's DRAM buffer. That's fair though, since if you don't normally exceed the buffer then you never experience any downside. Without and with RAID caching: Interesting the write RND4K, Q1T1 is...

What a loss. Enjoy your MacBook. Seems the Graid card is hardware to do software RAID. The drives don't connect to it and it seems the data doesn't even go through it, which would limit bandwidth to PCIe 3.0. As I understand, it gets only parity data, the idea being to save the CPU effort and...

Bah, bring on the encouragement. There's tons of threads about bang for the buck -- it gets boring. You won the lotto, what do you build for a workstation/server hybrid monstrosity? No comments on the Graid SupremeRAID SR-1010? Yep, case is Meshify 2, though everything is still laid out on a...

somebrains, cool trolling. Now do a bit more OT rambling and we'll be convinced of your smarts. I went with no read or write caching and a 64KB stripe size. I'll try turning the disk benchmarks into charts soon!

It's not so complex: I want to dork around making a hybrid workstation/server and I don't have a budget to do it. It is used for work but it's also plain fun to optimize and use a fast setup. Computer go BRRRR The dual U.2 works! I'll post more and results soon, but first I want to test RAID0...

Things are getting spicy 'round here! If only I had a #%@$ing case to put all this in! Comes tomorrow. My patience is already thin, I might just fire it up without a case -- sleep is overrated. Dual U.2 card hasn't arrived, but I have a single U.2 card. I think I'll briefly run off the...

LM is supposed to be fine on nickel plating. Some discoloration without affect on performance.

IIRC, the gallium in LM soaks into copper, creating an alloy. There's no point in trying to clean it off, unless it's uneven as rhkcommander959 said.

Note there's two 22H2, Windows 10 and 11. I'll stick with 10 until 12! FWIW, a number of Windows features can cause Windows to run apps in virtualization mode. For example, enabling WSL will do it, even without enabling Hyper-V and with core isolation off. It's called "virtualization based...

I ordered dog shampoo and a PSU, which came together a few days ago. Shampoo exploded. PSU was wrapped in plastic and is very clean now, but where it was sitting in the dog shampoo somehow a little shampoo got inside the plastic. Decided to return the PSU, still in plastic. They're damn well...

Winter is coming and people need to stay warm.

I've used LM, but only after a delid. Since you put on LM already, I would just leave it and keep an eye on temps. If temps rise, take it off and put on something else. If you are worried about the LM changing how your heatsink looks, take it off now. They say what the LM can do to a heatsink...

What the hell, recent news says Intel released new Optane drives! P5810X in 400GB and 800GB. What are the chances after all this time, I finally stumble upon the P5800X, order some, and then BOOM new drives are released! I've seen old news about a planned P5801X that presumably got shit canned...

Windows 10. I have no desire to suffer needlessly. I use Sledgehammer to stop all update shenanigans like this.

I saw mention (by Wendell @ Level1Techs) of compiling Linux and LLVM with Genoa (something about Linux not being big enough), but of course that was about CPU. I agree, Optane might not help compile times much. At the very least when I copy a folder with many tens of thousands of files, it takes...

I'm also relatively a noob, but here are my thoughts. Many reviews show Optane as roughly equivalent to the current best SSDs in every way, except for a few ways where it beats them handily. Sometimes by 4-5x (random reads), sometimes 100-300x+ (endurance). Not all the reviews show sustained...

Isn't the x4 link between chipset and CPU on my X670E motherboard a PCIe 5.0 link? IIUC, that'd be equivalent to x8 PCIe 4.0. Edit: nevermind, seems it's PCIe 4.0:

Aye, seems to be a number of single drive cards. I only found the one above that supports two AND is also PCIe 4.0. I have high hopes for it! This level1techs thread mentions the second drives getting x1, as you mentioned, but it was a PCIe 3.0 AIC.

This AIC looks like a good fit for 2x P5800X on the CPU lanes: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B81T1915

Yeah, I might add more storage later. If the Optanes are best connected via PCIe, there's three M.2 x4 and one x2 available. If the Optanes are better via M.2, there's two PCIe x16, one M.2 x4 and one x2 available. Either way that's probably enough. I changed mass storage to: Seagate FireCuda...

Aye, where were you days ago!? ;) Registered was the only DDR5 ECC I could find in stock. Thankfully I cancelled the order once I figured out it wasn't going to work. For now I'll go with G.Skill Trident Z5 2x16GB, 6400MHz, CL32-39-39-102 (F5-6400J3239G16GA2-TZ5RK), which is from the mobo QVL...

Alright, that's fair enough. Knowing it'll work is helpful. I'll have to just try it and see which setup works best!

Sign me up! :D Would performance still be good if I have one P5800X on the chipset and one on the CPU? It's either that or put both on the CPU using M.2 to U.2 adapters + cables. I can't tell which is better. lopoetve see DMs, pretty please!

I had a thought: RAID 0 is great but with SSDs has the downsides of 1) increased risk, and 2) worse random RW. The P5800X mitigates both of those, yes? Is it possible to run two P5800X in RAID 0? Are we getting HARD yet? On the CPU I've got one free PCIe and two free M.2. The M.2 to U.2...

I've been reading about Optane a lot, it's pretty dope. Optane is as fast or faster than anything else right now. The gap is closing with NAND but only in some ways. It may lose to PCIe 5.0 SSDs for sequential RW, though maybe not sustained, but should continue to be faster for Q1 and random...

Oops! I meant to Google it and got distracted. My guess was something to do with a RAID controller, but now I see. Oh damn, I SEE! 1.6GB max size is 400GB less than I had intended, but could still be OK. How is the P5800X expected to compare to PCIe 5.0 SSDs? 7k sequential RW for Optane versus...

I swapped the Antec SP1300 PSU with a Corsair AX1600i. Something here needs to be overkill! :p Reading more about raid0 with NVMe, it hurts random RW quite a bit. RW with raid0 can be ~77% of a single drive. Large files mostly aren't my use case, so I'll skip raid0. Maybe I'll do raid1 for...

Does anyone have info on Zen 4 supporting registered memory? I can't find anything about it, only some vague stuff about Zen 3 not supporting it. That's the best info I can find. Seems very unlikely for registered memory to be supported. Bummer, but good thing I bought that other memory!

I can return it if the ECC works and the performance loss doesn't bother me. This article specifically about Ryzen 7000 says I probably won't notice the difference, FWIW.

I was going to buy the ProArt from newegg from a scalper at $885, but just before pulling the trigger I found it at Central Computer for $500. I then changed ALL my purchases from newegg to central. Fuck newegg! The 4090 was harder. I had to buy from an ebay scalper. :( I feel so damned dirty...

Re: ECC not really being necessary, I usually sit at the computer 10+ hours/day. On what otherwise appears to be a stable machine (passes stress tests), I get a random crash maybe once/month, give or take. It's not the worst thing ever, but for a long time I've been wanting to use ECC and...

FWIW, the Redditor said he has KSM48E40BD8KM-32HM: JFC, PCIe 5.0 SSDs aren't available yet. I'm eternally too early for the technology I want!

Damn, that is quite a difference! Agreed, 7950X looks like the way to go. Should I buy ECC RAM now? Will it work even before AMD fixes ECC? Edit: Quick Google shows it should. Now to start choosing parts!

All great info, thanks guys! 64GB RAM would be enough, 32GB too little. I probably don't need > 64GB. AM5 looks good, but the only options now (7950X and 7600X) don't have ECC. Here's a guy confirming 9 days ago that ECC doesn't work with his 7950X. That's a huge bummer as I have started to...

Overboard is fine, the goal in fact! I watched the video, thanks. Damn, 9GB/s -- I'm putting raid0 NVMe SSDs on my list. Noooo, no budget option. What is the all out option? Spend my money! More importantly though it seems ECC isn't officially supported with Ryzen. It works, but apparently is...

Could be right! I don't need tons of PCIe, true. 16 cores/32 threads seems sufficient. I want stable and great performance for workstation and server tasks, ECC. It's not clear if EPYC is good for that, or something else. I thought since it's the latest tech, maybe it's a good choice. If not...