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OK. So what secret stores do you know, that are selling Nvidia 3000 series GPU at MSRP?

Sounds good. And how much did you pay for the items you purchased?

Who? What? When?

I can use the old one, but performance in Adobe Lightroom sucks big time. In recent releases, Adobe has been adding nice new features that want to have a fast GPU. I haven't seen it in writing, but Adobe seems to optimize for Nvidia architecture, hence my interest in a 3060 Ti, but I'm also...

She used to be an active poster in this forum, but no postings for months now. Her profile is "not available."

But maybe all those "elite" are posting in this forum? :ROFLMAO:

Count of what?

MY strategy is to hope and pray that my ancient 660 Ti keeps working for another year. Otherwise, I have to buy the least expensive card I get get off Ebay or Craigslist. And probably a new cable for my 2020 model Dell display.

I just looked at Ebay for 3060 Ti cards and it's obvious the scalpers rule there. So I've had to think how I'm going to cope before prices come down to something normal, whatever that means. And based on news reports, I don't expect to get that 3060 Ti until sometime in 2022. What's your...

So for the 256 or 192 bit bus chips, is the physical die size the same or smaller? If the same, how is the chip "cut down?"

Excuse the noob question. What is a "big" chip? An "uncut" chip? I know what is the bus and cores.

So while all this discussion is interesting, we have no way of knowing when we can actually buy one of these models (assuming that's what you want).

This article about Forrester Research discusses chip shortages, and specifically discusses GPU shortages...

I read somewhere that the average gas-powered car has about 30,000 parts. Automotive supply chains have "Tier 1," "Tier 2," etc. suppliers and who knows how many chips are single-sourced for small factories without much buying power (or profit margin).

But they aren't available in the US. :(

Twatter? Pallet? I just wanna say here that I have found pendragon1 to be an astute observer of the scene. And hey, I'm originally from NY, and we don't have the time to say nice things that aren't really true.

Prices trending up or down?

But at least there was a Frys about 5 miles away from my house.

For the first time in years, I'm sorry that Fry's went out of business. :eek: .:censored: I never, ever, thought I would say this. Northern CA was thick with Frys stores.

So I have to be in NYC next week. Does anyone know what the situation is with the MC stores in Brooklyn and Queens? Do you have to camp out at those stores? What if you took the bus or the subway to get there?

Do I read you right? People lining up at 4 pm the day before. So they need to spend all night on line? Sleeping bags? Place to piss?

What time did you get to the store? What time do they open?

Good on you. :)

UltraTaco Dunno. Before my recent build with an AMD 3900X, my last AMD CPU was an Athlon 2000, actually two running in MP mode using the "pencil trick." Nothing in between and I wasn't paying attention. I tend to build a strong system and then upgrade about every 5-6 years, sometimes more.

At the end of the day, does it even matter what you call mining on GPGPUs or GPUs? Back in the day, Intel had math co-processors for the 8086, 80286 and 80386 CPUs. Today that function is done by GPGPUs. Historical note: The IBM PC had a 4.77 MHz processor speed for its 8088 CPU.

Thanks. Right now I'm working on a laptop with a small screen.

When did you sign up for the 3060 Ti and the 3060? I'm also on those lists.

So I have to wonder. If B&H Photo, https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Graphic-Cards/ci/6567/N/3668461602, can do waitlists for products, why can't Newegg or Amazon sellers do that also? Because they would rather gouge us by feeding the beast?

I guess that the market hasn't reached the point where people refuse or simply can't pay the current gouge pricing. Given all the money sloshing around in people's bank accounts, that point is not yet in sight.

Gadzooks! Do you get the feeling like all these manufacturers are trying to suck every last dollar/euro/pound out of our wallets?

If we really knew when scalping was no longer a Thing, and maybe the mining craze died down, then it might be easier to make purchase decisions based on price now vs. price in the future. But I agree. We don't.

So is this thread like "Group Therapy [H] style?" :ROFLMAO:

Overall I agree with this post. For me, the decision to buy a 3060 Ti (my first choice, since I'm not a gamer) vs. a lower cost gimped 3060 Ti would depend on price. I guess if I now had that 3060 Ti, I would be doing some small-scale mining like a lot of other guys. But I would have to...

So this is message #227 in a thread that started on April 8, a really long thread. Have we learned anything?

So if you assume that Nvidia and AMD are both producing at capacity, then the monthly supply of these cards hasn't increased month over month. If you make this assumption, then the laws of supply and demand suggest that miners are getting an increasing share of that total production.

Not until I've taken my Lipitor today. :ROFLMAO:

So as long as this get-rich-very-fast project keeps on making a nice profit for the miners, they have every incentive to get as many cards as Nvidia and AMD can produce. I'm surprised that Nvidia and AMD don't double or triple MSRP, to get a bigger slice of the pie.

So you can always do a class action lawsuit, as in "Good luck Charlie." The lawyers make out like bandits. Us ordinary guys, bupkis. (look it up).

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What (s)he said. ^ ^ ^