1080P 144hz with adaptive sync. What card going forward?

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matt167

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My 2013 era Samsung B2230 I have finally decided to retire as my main monitor. It has DVI-D only so my 1070 is the last generation of card that it will support without an adapter so I ordered an LG 24GN650-B since it's Freesync is verified compatible with Gsync so either brand I go, it'll work. I spent the small extra to get an IPS and HDR. About $50 over the TN panel

Is this 6600 XT territory?

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Ducrider748 said:
Budget?
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$600 or something in that range. But I think I can get more card if I wait just a little
kirbyrj said:
Techspot's 12 game average at 1080p puts the 6600XT between the 3060 and 3060Ti albeit somewhat more generally available than those other two though.
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That is along what I thought. What is the adaptive range for freesync or gsync?

What I do now is turn on Vsync and adjust settings until it runs solid 60 fps for the majority of the gaming experience if it dips to 45 frames or so I don't notice too bad.
 
If you want 120hz in a fair amount of games, you will need at least a 3060 ti, 6700 xt, or 3070. If you want it in nearly all games, you will need a 6800 xt or 3080. *that is of course, talking about max settings. If you don't mind tweaking down settings, you can get 120hz in more games on a 6700 xt or 3070.

A couple of 3060 ti have already gone under $700 on newegg. If you can wait another month or so, they might get down to $600.
 
chameleoneel said:
If you want 120hz in a fair amount of games, you will need at least a 3060 ti, 6700 xt, or 3070. If you want it in nearly all games, you will need a 6800 xt or 3080. *that is of course, talking about max settings. If you don't mind tweaking down settings, you can get 120hz in more games on a 6700 xt or 3070.

A couple of 3060 ti have already gone under $700 on newegg. If you can wait another month or so, they might get down to $600.
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Smooth gameplay is more in what I want. The panel is adaptive sync, but I'm trying to figure out what the fps range is for freesync. I recall it being above 40fps which would seemingly be perfect. I play lots of things that may or may not be demanding. I just got Overload as a game to play with the flight stick I bought. It runs at 60 fps using 45% of the Gtx 1070 and almost no processor. So I'll guess that a 1070 could max the 144 hz panel. I also play Ticket to ride with my girlfriend, which would run on a potatoe
 
matt167 said:
Smooth gameplay is more in what I want. The panel is adaptive sync, but I'm trying to figure out what the fps range is for freesync. I recall it being above 40fps which would seemingly be perfect. I play lots of things that may or may not be demanding. I just got Overload as a game to play with the flight stick I bought. It runs at 60 fps using 45% of the Gtx 1070 and almost no processor. So I'll guess that a 1070 could max the 144 hz panel. I also play Ticket to ride with my girlfriend, which would run on a potatoe
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If it supports freesync premium or premium pro, then it has LFC Low Frame Compensation. If your framerate falls below the freesync minimum range, the gpu will duplicate the frames and the monitor will accept it as freesync.
 
chameleoneel said:
If it supports freesync premium or premium pro, then it has LFC Low Frame Compensation. If your framerate falls below the freesync minimum range, the gpu will duplicate the frames and the monitor will accept it as freesync.
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It's Freesync Premium. I just looked it up, and although it seems buried I found reference to 40-144 fps would be the freesync range for a 144hz FS panel.

Does that mean that if it were say 39 fps, it would double the 39 frames to 78 frames, and the 1ms response time would double to 2ms for that duration BUT not show a screen tear? Even at RX 6600 level of performance, I would think I could maintain 40 frames in demanding titles
 
matt167 said:
It's Freesync Premium. I just looked it up, and although it seems buried I found reference to 40-144 fps would be the freesync range for a 144hz FS panel.

Does that mean that if it were say 39 fps, it would double the 39 frames to 78 frames, and the 1ms response time would double to 2ms for that duration BUT not show a screen tear? Even at RX 6600 level of performance, I would think I could maintain 40 frames in demanding titles
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Not sure would effect the response times, but yes it could keep everything in sync and should prevent tearing.

I run a 6600XT and things have been great :)
 
TrunksZero said:
Not sure would effect the response times, but yes it could keep everything in sync and should prevent tearing.

I run a 6600XT and things have been great :)
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The way I'm thinking is that if a single frame is held twice, then it will double the response time. IF that is what it does below 40 frames.

My current monitors response time is 5ms, which in 2013 when I bought it was fairly good
 
matt167 said:
The way I'm thinking is that if a single frame is held twice, then it will double the response time. IF that is what it does below 40 frames.

My current monitors response time is 5ms, which in 2013 when I bought it was fairly good
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Monitor response times generally get lower, at higher framerates. So if its doubling frames at 39fps so that the monitor thinks is 78fps, the response times on the panel should be as if it were 78fps.

Input lag will be like 39fps.
 
Radeon "Anti-lag" might help compensate abit with that. But not really sure how it would react in a LFC scenario.
 
So, I've found a 2070 Super that might go cheap with the prices crashing ( blower card ). However I looked up the power requirements and it says 650 watts. I have an EVGA 500 BR it has 2 8 pins on one cable.. I know an 8 pin is good for 150W and the motherboard can supply 75W. That is 225W. The system should be good to go correct? I only have an R5 3600 in the system. I know a 6600 XT fits the power requirements of the system better but if this GPU goes for what I'm willing to pay ( way less than a new 6600 XT ) I will take it.. My little Rosewill FBM-01 office pc case will probably benefit from the blower card
 
matt167 said:
So, I've found a 2070 Super that might go cheap with the prices crashing ( blower card ). However I looked up the power requirements and it says 650 watts. I have an EVGA 500 BR it has 2 8 pins on one cable.. I know an 8 pin is good for 150W and the motherboard can supply 75W. That is 225W. The system should be good to go correct? I only have an R5 3600 in the system. I know a 6600 XT fits the power requirements of the system better but if this GPU goes for what I'm willing to pay ( way less than a new 6600 XT ) I will take it.. My little Rosewill FBM-01 office pc case will probably benefit from the blower card
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If you aren't doing a lot of overclocking and running high draw programs like distributed computing you are just fine with the 500w PSU.
 
My itx couch gaming box is a 5600x and Evga 2080 super powered by a Corsair sf 450w psu. Everything is running stock and I’ve never had any power issues. Agree with others that for normal / gaming use your psu is fine.
 
I have PBO turned on, but otherwise it's just a web browser and occasional gamer

A new power supply would benefit since the FBM-01 does not allow cable management. Getting rid of ~5 cables stuffed into a 3.5" bay wouldn't hurt
 
I let that 2070S go. It went for $450. Probably one of the cheapest available still but not in my willpower to spend that on a blower card. One of the $600 6700 xts has my attention. It's way more powerful than I need and would need a power supply as it's too close to the edge. But it's tempting
 
Well, I bit on one of the Asrock Challanger D 6700 XT's for $600. I wasn't going to until I realised that it was 2080 TI level of performance. So it will last quite a while
 
matt167 said:
Smooth gameplay is more in what I want. The panel is adaptive sync, but I'm trying to figure out what the fps range is for freesync. I recall it being above 40fps which would seemingly be perfect. I play lots of things that may or may not be demanding. I just got Overload as a game to play with the flight stick I bought. It runs at 60 fps using 45% of the Gtx 1070 and almost no processor. So I'll guess that a 1070 could max the 144 hz panel. I also play Ticket to ride with my girlfriend, which would run on a potatoe
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There are different types of freesync. There's eg. "freesync premium" which has higher range.

"Low framerate compensation (LFC), allows FreeSync technology to work when the framerate falls below the minimum refresh rate of the display. When the framerate drops below the minimum refresh rate of the display, frames are duplicated and displayed multiple times so that they can sync to a refresh rate that is within the displays refresh rate range. For example, a display with a 60 – 144Hz refresh rate, would be able to sync the frames of a game running at 40 FPS, by doubling them so that the display could sync and run at 80 Hz. A display with LFC effectively results in the removal of the minimum refresh rate boundary. All displays in the FreeSync Premium and FreeSync Premium Pro tier are certified to meet mandatory LFC requirements."

That's what my display is "saying"
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Kzoak said:
There are different types of freesync. There's eg. "freesync premium" which has higher range.

"Low framerate compensation (LFC), allows FreeSync technology to work when the framerate falls below the minimum refresh rate of the display. When the framerate drops below the minimum refresh rate of the display, frames are duplicated and displayed multiple times so that they can sync to a refresh rate that is within the displays refresh rate range. For example, a display with a 60 – 144Hz refresh rate, would be able to sync the frames of a game running at 40 FPS, by doubling them so that the display could sync and run at 80 Hz. A display with LFC effectively results in the removal of the minimum refresh rate boundary. All displays in the FreeSync Premium and FreeSync Premium Pro tier are certified to meet mandatory LFC requirements."

That's what my display is "saying"
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makes perfect sense now.. My monitor is Freesync Premium.
 
My Acer is a freesync premium and it runs fine with my RTX 3070 in 1080p at 144Hz = 144fps cap
 
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