Battlefield 2042

Only thing i'm concerned with is the use of AI bots to fill empty slots in multiplayer. I get they want the "illusion" of full games all the time, but I'd rather play with 80-100 real players than 128 players with a third of them being bots.
they mentioned the bots will be for server regions where there's not enough real players.
 
Only thing i'm concerned with is the use of AI bots to fill empty slots in multiplayer. I get they want the "illusion" of full games all the time, but I'd rather play with 80-100 real players than 128 players with a third of them being bots.

This, and I am okay with servers dwindling in player base. It changes the tactics a bit. And if it really drops low you can always swap servers.

Though I do see the benefit to bots in other scenarios.
 
they mentioned the bots will be for server regions where there's not enough real players.

Thats vague enough for me to question. What is "not enough" real players? At what point does the algorithm decide it needs to add bots? They said they want full games, so is 100 players "not enough"?
 
Wily if it's like fortnite, the "enough" value will probably be time based on how long it takes to find 100 players to start a match. If more than some value, say 60 seconds, it might start spawning in bots to cut the wait down.

As for the bots themselves, other games have done it for awhile (like fortnite, especaily for low sbmm games) and the playerbase doesn't seem to mind now, though there were doubts when it was originally implemented.
Vikendi is actually 6x6 km for 36 km². And didn't they already show that one of the maps in 2042 is bigger?
Which is exactly what he said, or are you nitpicking the 0.1 difference between 5.9 and 6 ? It's an estimate anyway due to the curvature of the coastline.
 
bots are one of the few things they got right in SW Battle Front 2. Also being able to Bench Mark your setup with a hundred or so bots sounds very handy to me while ill get my settings tweaked for a 120 real players :)
 
One thing I'd like to see them do is change the how artificially zoomed in the weapons are when aiming. In Battlefield 4 it was zoomed in far too much. Modern Warfare 2019 had a much more realistic point of view. On top of that, in BF4, it was so zoomed into the optic that you couldn't really tell what weapon you were using.

Example, SCAR H BF4:
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SCAR H MW 2019 (you can even see the flip down rear sight):
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1911 BF4:
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1911 MW 2019:
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One area MW was certainly better. Not only is it more realistic and reminds you what weapon you're using (especially if you picked it up off of someone) but it gives you a less obscured view.
 
One thing I'd like to see them do is change the how artificially zoomed in the weapons are when aiming. In Battlefield 4 it was zoomed in far too much. Modern Warfare 2019 had a much more realistic point of view. On top of that, in BF4, it was so zoomed into the optic that you couldn't really tell what weapon you were using.

Example, SCAR H BF4:
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SCAR H MW 2019 (you can even see the flip down rear sight):
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1911 BF4:
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1911 MW 2019:
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One area MW was certainly better. Not only is it more realistic and reminds you what weapon you're using (especially if you picked it up off of someone) but it gives you a less obscured view.
They did change this a bit with the dirty optics in BF1 and V though. I'm not sure how similar the optics are when they're clean, but during action, they definitely get a bit dirty. Adds to the "realistic" immersion I think you're asking for.

So let's see. On top of that, I imagine all of the tornados and sandstorms in the maps will make it much more difficult at times to see at a distance and will probably make the lenses very dirty to see through lol.
 
They did change this a bit with the dirty optics in BF1 and V though. I'm not sure how similar the optics are when they're clean, but during action, they definitely get a bit dirty. Adds to the "realistic" immersion I think you're asking for.

So let's see. On top of that, I imagine all of the tornados and sandstorms in the maps will make it much more difficult at times to see at a distance and will probably make the lenses very dirty to see through lol.

I'm referring to how close the weapon is held. Look at the pistol screen shots. In BF4 it is like you had Trex arms (super short). Just hold your hands out and hold something in your hands. You'll see your whole arms, similar to how it looks in CoD MW. In BF4 you just see right behind your wrists.

I haven't bothered much in BF1/5, but in BF4 the optic red dots could actually get blocked by map props. Meaning if you get too close to a wall, your gun will still be up and you can look through the site but the dot itself would be "blocked" by the map prop. Seems like the red dots were rendered separately and not actually in the red dot optic/sights themselves. And for whatever reason the game would make the dot disappear as if it was being lowered before the actual animation would play. Meaning the collision mechanic for lowering the weapon itself was not synced with removing the red dot rendering. Which would be odd sometimes if you're near a wall and the dot disappears.

Again, don't know if this was changed in BF1/5 but hopefully not a problem in 2042.
 
Which is exactly what he said, or are you nitpicking the 0.1 difference between 5.9 and 6 ? It's an estimate anyway due to the curvature of the coastline.
Eshelmen said 5.9 km², not 5.9x5.9 km. 5.9 km² would be 2.43x2.43 km. The 0.1 rounding did not bother me.
 
I'm just wondering how they plan to fill the servers with 128 players in Europe? No more people are so stupid, the game brings no profit except to famous YouTubers. And who doesn't know how to play doesn't bring him any fun.
If bad company 3 came out, the preorders in Europe would be big, but I don't believe there will be any rush to bf2042.
If the game is like bf4 and it probably is, there will be base raps on each map.
The plane, chopper and little bird should be overpowered, those who know how to play will dominate and the noob will have a hard time catching the kill, it will be more spawn-dead.
I see right now on my monitor that the 1080p resolution is dead to play, you see a very narrow field and you can't play at all. I started farcry4 and it's unplayable at 1080p resolution.
Battlefield 1 seems to be the last one that is still playable at 1080p, for bf2042 you will need a much bigger monitor 2560 * 1440 or 3840 * 2160, powerful hardware and fast network and the assumption that you know how to play. Only if some like to be fuc... and raped all the time.
As for me I'll probably try the beta and see how the network works and if the tank is good I might buy it, but 99% that I won't be able to play considering the hardver, network and the 1080p monitor.
I've played a lot of bf1 and I don't know why but every time there are people who have a huge or higher ping (I don't know why because in Europe most everyone has high speed internet.Most of those who know how to play gather over the weekend and then rape the noobs.
I don't know what the situation is in the Americas, but here in Europe, everyone is waiting for bad company 3.
 
I'm not sure what you're rambling on about. BF games are huge in Europe, and for better or worse there will be bots. I play exclusively with Americans and Canadians in BF4 (and Mexicans, but practically zero Mexican servers). That is what my filter is set to. Canada, USA, Mexico servers only. There are more people in Europe than the US and Canada so it shouldn't be a problem. Vehicles were balanced in BF4 at least, so if you figure out how to play something well you'll do fine.

For system requirements they'll go up of course. Doesn't matter what name it is. Could be called Bad Company 2042, but a modern game will require a modern system. That is how new graphics work. They require a higher end system. If you're not getting the performance you need update. Or get a console.
 
I'm not sure what you're rambling on about. BF games are huge in Europe, and for better or worse there will be bots. I play exclusively with Americans and Canadians in BF4 (and Mexicans, but practically zero Mexican servers). That is what my filter is set to. Canada, USA, Mexico servers only. There are more people in Europe than the US and Canada so it shouldn't be a problem. Vehicles were balanced in BF4 at least, so if you figure out how to play something well you'll do fine.

For system requirements they'll go up of course. Doesn't matter what name it is. Could be called Bad Company 2042, but a modern game will require a modern system. That is how new graphics work. They require a higher end system. If you're not getting the performance you need update. Or get a console.
I do not believe in success in Europe, maybe most will buy it but will not play for long, only those who know and have opportunities will play.
In bf4 each round was a base rape and the vehicles were not balanced.
And to ride a chopper you need a lot of skill and practice especially if you only drive with a keyboard and mouse.
 
I do not believe in success in Europe, maybe most will buy it but will not play for long, only those who know and have opportunities will play.

You just described every multiplayer game ever. I'm not sure what backwater country you're from, but in western Europe it will do fine as always.

In bf4 each round was a base rape and the vehicles were not balanced.

If your team sucked then yes.

And to ride a chopper you need a lot of skill and practice especially if you only drive with a keyboard and mouse.

The helicopters were best used with mouse/keyboard and worked fine.

Sounds like you just aren't good at Battlefield games. Doesn't mean the game will flop just because you aren't good or your PC is out dated. The world will move on without you. And I'm not even that optimistic about all the new changes and outright hate others. But my opinion doesn't matter much in this multi million customer market.
 
Croatia, everyone here is waiting for bad company 3, but those with possibilities will surely preorder bf 2042 because it is modern warfare and it is most similar to bf3 and bf4.
My best bf is bf1, I play there most of the time in a big tank. I'm not good at flying and I've never tried too hard to learn, it takes a lot of practice. I also don’t have friends and I’ve never played squad with friends, it’s also a drawback if you want to have a lot of kills and points.
What is the hardware and peripherals I think the software and games are slightly lagging behind and poorly optimized, we have 12 core processors, powerful graphics, huge monitors, etc., 1080p resolution is dead.
But I also think that bf 2042 will not be so popular, people are not that stupid, that's probably why they inserted bots. New kids play some other games and bf is more and more similar to those other games.
This with bots is a big failure, people like to play against real people.
They could also be a base camping for vehicles.If they allow private servers there will be even more base raps.I don't like that at all, they could increase it to, for example, 80 players without bots.
sounds like your a real noob to the BF series.....Sorry but you get just about everything wrong. This game will be the next BF4 and then some it looks to me. I will be playing it Day one one way or another.
BF1 was a sorry excuse and honestly most BF fans boycotted it.

I hope one of our [H] guys creates a group so we can easier team up together and learn all the tricks early on :)
 
sounds like your a real noob to the BF series.....Sorry but you get just about everything wrong. This game will be the next BF4 and then some it looks to me. I will be playing it Day one one way or another.
BF1 was a sorry excuse and honestly most BF fans boycotted it.

I hope one of our [H] guys creates a group so we can easier team up together and learn all the tricks early on :)
I don't mind, to me BF1 was the best of all.As for BF1,is still being played and there are always full servers in Europe, German servers mostly.
Technically I probably won't be able to play bf2042 because they unfortunately increased twice the number of players. There's also no way I'm going to buy the game in advance especially now that the bots have been announced.
There will probably be a lot of cheaters, it is not known much yet how it will all work together.With 64 players you have all kinds of characters and what will happen with 128.
 
I don't mind, to me BF1 was the best of all.As for BF1,is still being played and there are always full servers in Europe, German servers mostly.
Technically I probably won't be able to play bf2042 because they unfortunately increased twice the number of players. There's also no way I'm going to buy the game in advance especially now that the bots have been announced.
There will probably be a lot of cheaters, it is not known much yet how it will all work together.With 64 players you have all kinds of characters and what will happen with 128.

Been reading your posts and have refrained from responding until now. It sounds like you see yourself as representative of an entire continent. If you like the game you’ll be able to find servers and if you don’t like the game no one from your side of the world is going to want to play.
 
As far as i know here in europe and especially in croatia everyone is waiting for bad company 3, i haven't played bad company 2 but it is supposedly the best bf multiplayer game ever and which requires the most skill and knowledge, BF3,BF4 also.
As far as i can see RUSH no longer exists in bf 2042?
I'm sorry they didn't make BC3 because there's a long wait here, I'd probably play it and try it.
Otherwise of all the battlefield games, i played bf3, bf4, hardline and bf1.
Definitely my favorite and best BF1.I say, there are still German servers that are full every day, and only CQ mode being played.
I don't understand why ea and dice don't listen to the community and don't give people bad company 3?

Can you provide a link to the dataset you’re using to determine most everyone is waiting for BC3?
 
As far as i know here in europe and especially in croatia everyone is waiting for bad company 3, i haven't played bad company 2 but it is supposedly the best bf multiplayer game ever and which requires the most skill and knowledge, BF3,BF4 also.
As far as i can see RUSH no longer exists in bf 2042?
I'm sorry they didn't make BC3 because there's a long wait here, I'd probably play it and try it.
Otherwise of all the battlefield games, i played bf3, bf4, hardline and bf1.
Definitely my favorite and best BF1.I say, there are still German servers that are full every day, and only CQ mode being played.
I don't understand why ea and dice don't listen to the community and don't give people bad company 3?

Bad Company was a limited console game. BF3 utterly blew it out of the water and brought everything like shooting and animations up to par with indie PC games. BF1 never had the player base of BF4 on PC largely because of the servers, despite good sales. BF5 sales dropped signficantly and the player base dropped off even quicker. There used to be official statistics called BF3, BF4, BF Hardline and BF1 stats. It showed peak and concurrent player count daily, total and broken down for each platform. BF4 was doing better than Hardline and BF1. I think they took them offline around the time BF5 flopped and weren't interested in showing off how much staying power BF4 had.

Here is a similar website. It shows that Germany has more servers than the US, likely because it is in the center of Europe. (550 million vs 350 of the US/Canada):
https://bf4db.com/stats

Looks like there are close to 20,000 players playing BF4 currently. I think there is still demand in Europe for Battlefield games.
 
Bad Company was a limited console game. BF3 utterly blew it out of the water and brought everything like shooting and animations up to par with indie PC games. BF1 never had the player base of BF4 on PC largely because of the servers, despite good sales. BF5 sales dropped signficantly and the player base dropped off even quicker. There used to be official statistics called BF3, BF4, BF Hardline and BF1 stats. It showed peak and concurrent player count daily, total and broken down for each platform. BF4 was doing better than Hardline and BF1. I think they took them offline around the time BF5 flopped and weren't interested in showing off how much staying power BF4 had.

Here is a similar website. It shows that Germany has more servers than the US, likely because it is in the center of Europe. (550 million vs 350 of the US/Canada):
https://bf4db.com/stats

Looks like there are close to 20,000 players playing BF4 currently. I think there is still demand in Europe for Battlefield games.
I wrote bad company 2,i didn't play MP, a bit of SP, it was available on PC.
Bf1 had 60Hz servers, BF3 didn't if i'm not mistaken.
 
So far amd gpu has always been better in the BF franchise than nvidia(more fps and better image processing) but it doesn't mean it will still be, ea and dice can always brake it amd gpu since nvidia pays for marketing and sponsorship.

The tank will certainly not be like in BF 1, I get into the big tank at the beginning and play mostly alone, I can fix it myself with X .... and it has a sight on the outside and inside.

In bf2042 one player will have to constantly repair vehicles and tanks as in bf3 / 4 and there will be camping at the base for entry, the same will be for aircraft ... Probably every round will be base rape, on one side noobs and on the other those who know play .... And add more bots and the game will be pure garbage like bf3 and bf4
So far it has always been on European servers, only bf1 was an exception ....
Sowrong.jpg. BF3 and BF4 rocked. If you're getting base camped, join a better clan or a more balanced server. Most aren't base camps.
 
BF3 and BF4 rocked. If you're getting base camped, join a better clan or a more balanced server. Most aren't base camps.

"Baserape is merely a condition of enough pussies letting it happen." --George S. Patton

Seriously, joining a server where your team had allowed itself to get pushed back all the way to it's base .. was an opportunity. To leverage your proficiency in force multiplier vehicles and weapons to find a way to break out. And if there were a decent amount of tickets left, swing the battle the other way. Spending enough game hours fighting up a steep difficulty incline just made you better, and generally less useless.
 
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Off topic but does BF IV has a training mode where you can practice flying in jets without joining an online game, or is it posssible to host an online game with nothing but bots to practice targetting?
 
Off topic but does BF IV has a training mode where you can practice flying in jets without joining an online game, or is it posssible to host an online game with nothing but bots to practice targetting?

I believe BF4 has test range mode where you can fly around solo.
 
Speaking of BFIV, I fired it up. I have the week off, so I decided to game. I've been on all day. I won one game. One. Now, I guess it could be me? In a map of 64 people, I guess one person (me) with a ~.5 k/d will make or break the game? At least that's how the kids in the game explained it to me. Every game ends with the enemy 300+ points ahead. I guess it is all my fault? I just want a win before I uninstall the game. =/
 
Speaking of BFIV, I fired it up. I have the week off, so I decided to game. I've been on all day. I won one game. One. Now, I guess it could be me? In a map of 64 people, I guess one person (me) with a ~.5 k/d will make or break the game? At least that's how the kids in the game explained it to me. Every game ends with the enemy 300+ points ahead. I guess it is all my fault? I just want a win before I uninstall the game. =/

Are you joining games already in progress or staying in the server as it switches maps so you get to start a fresh game? Because if you're just joining games in progress chances are higher you end up on the losing team.
 
From what I've watched/read so far, there is too much to like about BF 2042 not to pre-order or first day buy. This game strikes a good cord with me.
The itch is there, but it is still a ways off and we have yet to see actual gameplay. We should see some actual gameplay at EA Play Live on July 22.
 
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Are you joining games already in progress or staying in the server as it switches maps so you get to start a fresh game? Because if you're just joining games in progress chances are higher you end up on the losing team.
Staying with the server. I play the objective, and no matter what happens, our highest scoring player, has a lower score than the lowest on the other team. Every game was like that.
 
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