Why is Microcenter scalping people.

I would rather the company that actually makes the card get the money.

The price is inflated for all the reasons we talk about every time, don't need to rehash that.

So it is not scalping, and I also don't think it is really greed either. It is just the market working as designed.
 
Let's be legit here. No one NEEDS a discrete video card. You need food, shelter, clothing. Anything above and beyond is considered a luxury.

If we want to go the cost route, when a cards MSRP is the same as the cost of an entire mid range OEM PC, it's a luxury item.

No one NEEDS a system that plays the newest games at 4k ultra. It's luxury.
GPU's and teeth have something in common, you need neither to live life therefore they are, as auntjemima said ... a luxury. Until recently New Mexico State Medicaid did not pay for dental because they said it was a luxury. How much more so would a GPU be a luxury?
 
I would put it differently. People have brains and they have money. It's how the apply their brains to spend their money.

Sounds like an inefficient way to say people are stupid. I like efficiency.
 
If any lesson is learned here we can forget about sub $1k flagship GPUs. Basically forever.

I mean for real, who in their right mind would buy this at the asking price?

https://www.microcenter.com/product...iquid-cooled-16gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

Even the "non ultimate" version is over $2k! I understand how chip binning works but come on! That is absurd. And its hashrate is medicore. Even a lowly Radeon VII beats it by far!

That card with EK block shouldn't be more than $1400 MSRP.
 
Now where you do see scalping is retailers like Newegg forcing horrible product bundles into their graphics card lottos.
Newegg is absolutely horrible right now. Their prices are insane right now. I have been buying from Newegg for like 10 years now. I will NEVER ever buy anything from newegg now.

Corporate America is filled with not only Greedy assholes, but they treat all their employees, especially IT workers like crap. They don't give a shit about anybody but their greedy pockets. They make you work 60 hours a week, burn you out, and they just get the next stuid guy in line for less money.

I used to like working and having fun, but after being laid off several times in my career. I have an attitude, I get by with the minimal amount of work to get me by and not an inch more.

Fuck corporate America.
 
When you wrote "No no no,! I didnt get poked in the pooper when i bought my $2000 gpu! Its just supply and demand!", why do you care what another person decides to spend on their video card or how they justify it anyways? This is [H], and going hard on pc parts meant some of the members had insane cost for their builds. If someone is fine buying a $2000 card cause that's what it cost, and they are happy with it, then it is their demand and they paid to be supplied. Simple as that.

Maybe for the simple reason because as long as there's enough people that buys the cards at whatever price the manufacturers can demand that kind of pricing? It affects everyone, those who aren't willing to pay such a price and if NO ONE would buy the cards at these ridiculous prices the pricing would have come down, despite chip shortages and pandemic times but instead some people now have to wait a year+ instead of waiting a month if there would be a mass boycott. So of course they care what other people pays.
 
Supply, demand, limited resources, competition. All of which bring us to this situation. You want video card? Yes. What are video card supplies? Lower than they've been in a long time. Who's trying to get said video cards? Gamers and miners alike. Guess what? Prices gon be gon up.

The laws of basic economics prevail.



And the usual bullshit disclaimer because half of you people are going to get mad at me for this. YES - I know and agree the situation sucks and I'm a little bitter at it myself, if I'm honest. But that's the situation we're in.
 
Let's be legit here. No one NEEDS a discrete video card. You need food, shelter, clothing. Anything above and beyond is considered a luxury.

If we want to go the cost route, when a cards MSRP is the same as the cost of an entire mid range OEM PC, it's a luxury item.

No one NEEDS a system that plays the newest games at 4k ultra. It's luxury.

To add to this, I play with the kids and my daughter uses my gaming PC, my son has his own gaming PC and I run an AMD 3200g with no discrete cards and I haven't noticed an issue at all. Now, we only really play fortnite and a handful of titles around the Half Life 2 era, so that's probably why.
 
Every thursday seems to be "restock day" on amd's resale site... so if you want MSRP prices on all their items I suggest you check on that site periodically today. Scored a 6700xt for 479 last week thrusday and they had EVERYTHING instock from all their cpu's and all their gpus..... for about 5 mins
what time exactly?
 
No exact time, they vary, but in general something like 10-12 est. If I remember correctly.
suppose i never hurts to try on my phone at lunch time if its still goin on that late at 12 est...ugggg it be so much easier if even then on a real pc....but it be like winning the lottery i guess. ill buy what ever just for the investment....well not only :)

is there a way to create an account on their site so IF things work out its just a matter of logging in? or its just type work as fast as possible if you get lucky?
 
suppose i never hurts to try on my phone at lunch time if its still goin on that late at 12 est...ugggg it be so much easier if even then on a real pc....but it be like winning the lottery i guess. ill buy what ever just for the investment....well not only :)

is there a way to create an account on their site so IF things work out its just a matter of logging in? or its just type work as fast as possible if you get lucky?

Autofill or paypal is it. You can get an idea by going through the cart and not saving it at the end. They have cpu's in stock.
 
MC scalping the living hell out of that one lol.....anybody says otherwise well i dont know what to say to that
Hard to say exactly considering what AIB's charged over MSRP for their AMD cards. I will say though that that is $50 more than Newegg is selling it for and like $1000 more than I saw some eBay listings going for.

I wonder if there is a list somewhere of AIB MSRP's, then you'll know for sure.
 
MC scalping the living hell out of that one lol.....anybody says otherwise well i dont know what to say to that
6900XT pricing has been weird. I saw a gigabyte 6900XT for about $1600 a couple months back when most places were selling them for $2600+, but then right next to it was another model for $2600. Then they'd have watercooled models (not AIO) for $2200 next to fan models for $2600 from the same vendor / product line (kinda makes sense if less people want a watercooled GPU). They were slow to raise prices but also seem to be slow to drop them, so I think this really has more to do with AIB pricing than microcenter gouging customers.
 
Chip bin tax is insane! Imagine someone buying one of those and leaving clocks alone! If binned well a custom bios (not even sure if that is possible any more LOL!) would be ticket to squeeze some impressive numbers. Way past point of diminishing returns. JMHO.
 
Hard to say exactly considering what AIB's charged over MSRP for their AMD cards. I will say though that that is $50 more than Newegg is selling it for and like $1000 more than I saw some eBay listings going for.

I wonder if there is a list somewhere of AIB MSRP's, then you'll know for sure.
I haven't seen any AiB MSRP listed anywhere. I wonder why that would be? I also notice not a lot of these $2k+ are being sample to any reviewers.
 
I haven't seen any AiB MSRP listed anywhere. I wonder why that would be? I also notice not a lot of these $2k+ are being sample to any reviewers.
I just remember when RDNA2 first released last year, the AIB cards were day 1 way way higher than the reference models, some even 2X.
 
I just remember when RDNA2 first released last year, the AIB cards were day 1 way way higher than the reference models, some even 2X.
Wasn't the crypto craze already a thing when these cards were released? Someways, it's hard to remember what life was like before the pandemic.
 
Wasn't the crypto craze already a thing when these cards were released? Someways, it's hard to remember what life was like before the pandemic.
Kinda, but crypto has been going for the Nvidia cards this go around.

The Nvidia AIBs were also higher than the FE MSRP's, but not to the degree AMD's AIB's launched theirs. I can only conclude that maybe Nvidia was keeping tighter control on how much their AIBs could raise their price above their own MSRP's.

But that's all just speculation on my side. Who knows the full story or all the reasons.
 
I used to have such a luxurious coiffed doo but I woke up this morning and, NOTHING BUT SKULL!!! BONE. WHITE. SKULL! I'm OUTRAGED! (but a little bit grateful since I was almost completely out of head & shoulders so that's one less item on the grocery list.)

As others have said, it's greed. Plain and simple. It's frustrating to say the least, especially since the costs still haven't appreciably dropped since 4-5 months ago.

I'm going to take a major loss replacing my AsRock OC Formula 6900XT because of these "way too high" prices.
 
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But that's all just speculation on my side. Who knows the full story or all the reasons.
I doubt we will ever know the full story, now or any time soon, unless some employee violates there non-disclosure agreement . Maybe years from now, after he/she has left the company and then the agreement has expired.
 
It absolutely is. Any gpu that starts costing over 25% the tier below it for sub 10% the gains in performance is pure big epeen luxury. That's what being [h] is about. How is an item meant to get faster frame rates in a video game if that's what you are doing not a luxury?

I do agree if a miner argues thst it's not a luxury cause it's how they make a living, but guess what it's the wild west for them so my sympathy goes about as far as a kitten can pee.

Then computers, SSD's, Ram, CPU's, cases, desktop's, laptop's, tablet's and smartphones are ALL luxury items. Also, cars are luxury items and trucks, motorcycles, running shoes, walking shoes, suits, dresses, appliances, owning a home and one and on.......

No, GPU's are not luxury items, Taco is correct. And yes, Microcenter is scalping, considering you can now get the 6700XT for about $720 on ebay at buy it now prices. So yes, once again, Microcenter is scalping.
 
Every gpu discussion inevitably turns into a "this is why gpus are so expensive blehhhhh." Just poke my eyes out with a sharp stick please.
Blah blah blah, boring boring oft repeated conjecture were all soooo sick of hearing.

So! Heres my take. You may not like it so be prepared.

This shit has nothing to do with supply and demand, shortages, crypto or supply chain. Its called GREED. Plain and simple greed. These greedy -insert favorite expletive- have made more gpus(and money) this year than they ever have to date(Feel free to correct me if im wrong). You can try to excuse it away anyhow you choose to but it doesnt change anything. "No no no,! I didnt get poked in the pooper when i bought my $2000 gpu! Its just supply and demand!" Thats truly funny shit. The way we justify what we buy.
These investor driven soulless companies saw an opportunity to take advantage of the consumer and have done so at every turn. The VERY moment they were given an excuse to jack up prices they took it, compounded it and ran with it. The same DAY a story or stories were released as to why prices MIGHT be rising they immediately imposed increases. Truthful or not they didnt care, they simply made it true by force feeding consumers price increases. It had to be true then right!?!
Thats called greed. Nothing more nothing less. So please, do us all a favor and call it what it is once and for all. Stop trying to justify your purchase with this weak ass supply and demand shit. Nobody's buying it.

Edit- Im talking about AIBs.

If I had to buy a new card, I would, and I would not care about justifying it or not. I am grateful to have a reference Vega 56 and RX5700, those reference cards are built like tanks. I also have a Strix Vega 64 that I bought for $200 from one of the hardf users here back in late 2019 and so far, I have had no issues with it. (I do not overclock, however.) Yep, scalping is a straight up real thing now in a bad way.
 
Then computers, SSD's, Ram, CPU's, cases, desktop's, laptop's, tablet's and smartphones are ALL luxury items. Also, cars are luxury items and trucks, motorcycles, running shoes, walking shoes, suits, dresses, appliances, owning a home and one and on.......

No, GPU's are not luxury items, Taco is correct. And yes, Microcenter is scalping, considering you can now get the 6700XT for about $720 on ebay at buy it now prices. So yes, once again, Microcenter is scalping.

There are tiers. And many are luxury items. That's why theres catagories such as Hedt. I think you guys might be thinking I'm saying luxury like it's a bad thing. It isn't. A lot of us indulge ourselves in the fruit of our labor rightfully so.
 
Every thursday seems to be "restock day" on amd's resale site... so if you want MSRP prices on all their items I suggest you check on that site periodically today. Scored a 6700xt for 479 last week thrusday and they had EVERYTHING instock from all their cpu's and all their gpus..... for about 5 mins

What time period and timezone was that in please?
 
set an alarm for 6 snooze a few times then force yourself up before final alarm at 7.
 
not everyone is conditioned yet to wake at 4:30 am be ready for 5 then out the door by 6 lol
 
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