Venturing into the Realm of WC? Help Please.

So you may have always been interested in Water Cooling(aka noob at wc). Just never really had the money or the computer worthy of it, but now you do?!

I would suggest looking at the "Discouraged by the price of watercooling?" thread, and then you can stumble around on my thread, looking at my nooby questions, and then ask your own.

So these were my initial questions and their answers...

First off, that list does have everything i would need, right? - You bet.
Are there any good alternatives to a cpu block that will fit the 1366 slot without an adapter? The Enzotech Sapphire Rev. A has the best performance for the price. You will need this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835708048
For all of things that are listed, would it go well with my antec 902 case? - I had to do some case modding, mounted them on the side laying horizontally. I would suggest getting a case that has room for watercooling.
Do you think I would have to do a lot of case modding? - Depends on your case and the rad size.
How about the Scythe Ultra Kaze fans? 3000 ±10% RPM - 133.60 CFM - I wouldn't recommend getting these if you want a quiet computing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185054
What about a reservoir? - I used the T-line setup, which consists of a "T" shaped tubing. Cheaper then getting the a reservoir, however the reservoir will help bleed better.
Good GPU blocks? - IDK, didn't get one. [H] is your friend
I would like blue neon cables or would black cables look better with my case(lights up blue)? Clear tubing is cheaper, lol.


I'm pretty good at figuring things out...So from what i've seen, its pretty straight forward? Or is there a secret to trade I should be told? Not really. It will all click together...eventually



I've gotten a lot of help, so i thought my thread could help some one else...Hopefully I got my questions answered correctly...I'll post some pics of my rig soon.

KI

good gpu blocks... hmm well that really depends are you going to go full block?
or just get the gpu block and aircool the ram, and mosfets?
scythe ultra kaze fans, seem load... I have heard good and bad about them. generally speaking you want a fan that can actually push its cfm through the rad that you will be using, 120mm x 38mm fans seem to be the best for this as they have a higher static pressure.
there are some unanswered questions that I have for you.
what are you going for performance or quietness? it seems as though you want it to look "flashy"
that will add to the cost of your loop.
reservoir or t-line? you will have to decide on that, do you want to have a hose hanging around in your case or would you rather mount a res and not have to worry about tucking away another hose?
I personally have used the t-line setup for the last 3 years, no problem with it (its cheaper) and it does the same job, just takes longer to bleed the system of bubbles.

So in a t-line setup you dont have to have a res?
wouldn't that make it run hotter?

Originally Posted by 0m3g4

good gpu blocks... hmm well that really depends are you going to go full block?
or just get the gpu block and aircool the ram, and mosfets?

I was planing on just air cooling the ram.

There are some unanswered questions that I have for you.
what are you going for performance or quietness? it seems as though you want it to look "flashy"that will add to the cost of your loop.

Performance, and yes flashy The sound doesn't bother me, its already pretty loud. How much more?

reservoir or t-line? you will have to decide on that, do you want to have a hose hanging around in your case or would you rather mount a res and not have to worry about tucking away another hose?

T line, saving a few bucks is never bad

I just got done building my first W/C rig. I did ton's of reading and research, found out what was the best and why. I think that the best CPU block for 1366 is the Heatkiller 3.0, if you are trying to save a few bucks go with the Acetal version. I f you can spare a little more, get the copper one. I bought the copper one, but there is only a 1-2c defference.

Originally Posted by galdoes16

I just got done building my first W/C rig. I did ton's of reading and research, found out what was the best and why. I think that the best CPU block for 1366 is the Heatkiller 3.0, if you are trying to save a few bucks go with the Acetal version. I f you can spare a little more, get the copper one. I bought the copper one, but there is only a 1-2c defference.

Where did you do the majority of your research?

Thanks

What does every1 think of this kit?
Its the Petra'sTech CoolKit Basic - Rev.3

http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoba.html

Originally Posted by King Icewind

Where did you do the majority of your research?

Thanks

I did alot of reading here, and even more over at Extremesystems Liquid Cooling section.

That kit, I don't know about the block, but everything else is great. I would spend a little more and get the Elite kit if you want everything all set out for you.

Also, get a MCres and make the bleeding process 10x easier. What are you looking to cool, and how far of an OC do you want?

Originally Posted by galdoes16

Also, get a MCres and make the bleeding process 10x easier. What are you looking to cool, and how far of an OC do you want?

So don't go with the T-line setup?

I would like to cool the cpu at first, with the option to cool the gpu later. As far and safely as I can go ...Would i need to cool nb/sb aswell, if i oced a lot?

Thanks

honestly, even those kits shouldn't be looked at.
mostly because you are going to end up replacing most or some of the parts in there.
Since this is your first loop, I think I would do a t-line (they are easier to bleed the air from, and fill the rad)
reservoirs don't really make a difference in the temp of your loop, it is the same hot liquid sitting in a box without a way for it to displace the heat.
for that kit, you would be fine to cool your cpu (depending on how high you want to o/c) and maybe your n/b, that is about all the heat that radiator would be able to displace.
the pump is a great pump though.
the cpu block is fine, definitely not the best.
this is a radiator that I highly recommend, and I feel that it is very underrated
http://www.dangerden.com/store/black...-radiator.html
I had my q9650 @ 4.3 w/ 1.38v and it kept it @ 72c under full load after 25mins (that means the water was as hot as it was gonna get)
this is the same pump but w/o the speed adjustment
http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd12v...-by-laing.html
I would go with the clearflex tubing as it is cheap and you can color your water and put the cool antikink wrap on it
http://www.dangerden.com/store/clearflex-60-tubing.html
they also have alot of colored tubing.
and finally for the waterblock I think I would go with trying to find a good used d-tek fuzion v1 or v2 here on the forums, just buy one of those... it is not the best cpu block but it is still top 3(and really the top 3 are all within 1-2c of each other).

I don't really want to buy anything used.



How does this look? I just need to add the nuke.

How much is the top limit of your budget? *Remember, the word "Budget" really doesn't exist in W/C.*

Around 200-250....

Originally Posted by King Icewind

I don't really want to buy anything used.



How does this look? I just need to add the nuke.

Looks excellent. I saw you went with my reccomendations. If you need a free fitting or LGA1366 adapter, look in the combo section with the Enzotech Sapphire.

pt nuke is a waist of money....
use 10% antifreeze with distilled water, and about 3 drops of iodine.
the cpx pro pump is a decent pump, but once again that rad is too small for gpu/cpu cooling, unless you are cooling lower end gpu/cpu.

Originally Posted by 0m3g4

but once again that rad is too small for gpu/cpu cooling, unless you are cooling lower end gpu/cpu.

Im cooling whats in my sig. Will i really notice that much of a difference for the extra $20?

Thanks

I know that I'm a Noob to W/C, but from my experiance, you get what you pay for. I would say to save a little more and get a higher quality Rad and a Res also.

Originally Posted by 0m3g4

pt nuke is a waist of money....
use 10% antifreeze with distilled water, and about 3 drops of iodine.
the cpx pro pump is a decent pump, but once again that rad is too small for gpu/cpu cooling, unless you are cooling lower end gpu/cpu.

Wait, can you back that up? Tht radiator is plenty for a CPU and GPU.

Originally Posted by galdoes16

I know that I'm a Noob to W/C, but from my experiance, you get what you pay for. I would say to save a little more and get a higher quality Rad and a Res also.

You don't always have to use a reservoir. You can use a t-line to fill your loop.

What exactly do you mean by higher quality? HW Labs makes high quality rads. Just because a radiator is cheaper than the others doesn't mean it performs worse. Thickness doesn't always translate into better temps.

Obviously you guys need some edumication. The BIP and Swiftect MCR320 are basically the same rad, so you can draw from the same conclusions. Just take a look at this data:

http://www.realredraider.com/vbullet...ead.php?t=4924

Originally Posted by lollerskater69

Obviously you guys need some edumication.

Yes, i'll admit im a noob at wc

So your suggesting that I would be fine, with the rad i have selected?

Thanks